WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.010 Today, Michael Dorn and Michelle Hurd, 2 00:00:02.010 --> 00:00:04.112 a.k.a. Starfleet Intelligence officers Worf 3 00:00:04.112 --> 00:00:05.190 and Raffi Musiker, 4 00:00:05.190 --> 00:00:06.360 help me get to the bottom 5 00:00:06.360 --> 00:00:07.590 of everything that went down 6 00:00:07.590 --> 00:00:09.510 in this week's episode of Star Trek: Picard; 7 00:00:09.510 --> 00:00:12.480 we go behind the scenes on this season's incredible stunts; 8 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:15.270 and we discover what it means to be Jack Crusher. 9 00:00:15.270 --> 00:00:18.295 Confirm your true identity and report to The Ready Room. 10 00:00:25.170 --> 00:00:27.870 Hey nerds, I'm Wil Wheaton and this is The Ready Room, 11 00:00:27.870 --> 00:00:29.670 your official behind-the-scenes hub 12 00:00:29.670 --> 00:00:31.470 for all things Star Trek Universe. 13 00:00:31.470 --> 00:00:33.780 We're midway through Star Trek: Picard Season 3, 14 00:00:33.780 --> 00:00:35.700 and it's time for Jean-Luc Picard and Will Riker 15 00:00:35.700 --> 00:00:37.260 to face the music for their actions 16 00:00:37.260 --> 00:00:38.850 in the first five episodes. 17 00:00:38.850 --> 00:00:40.380 So to ensure that you don't face 18 00:00:40.380 --> 00:00:42.450 a Starfleet interrogator unprepared, 19 00:00:42.450 --> 00:00:45.270 I'm calling for a red alert! 20 00:00:45.270 --> 00:00:46.710 We'll be revealing corruption 21 00:00:46.710 --> 00:00:48.630 at the highest levels of Starfleet, 22 00:00:48.630 --> 00:00:50.160 and I really don't want you to feel betrayed 23 00:00:50.160 --> 00:00:51.480 by Ready Room spoilers. 24 00:00:51.480 --> 00:00:53.550 So, if you haven't seen this week's episode 25 00:00:53.550 --> 00:00:55.680 of Star Trek: Picard titled "Imposters," 26 00:00:55.680 --> 00:00:58.410 lock yourself in a recreation of your favorite hangout, 27 00:00:58.410 --> 00:01:00.270 stream it, and then come back here 28 00:01:00.270 --> 00:01:02.730 for all the top-secret intel. 29 00:01:02.730 --> 00:01:06.300 This week I'm joined by our favorite Klingon warrior, 30 00:01:06.300 --> 00:01:09.690 Michael Dorn, a.k.a Worf, and Michelle Hurd, who plays 31 00:01:09.690 --> 00:01:11.939 the unstoppable Starfleet Intelligence officer, 32 00:01:11.939 --> 00:01:13.260 Raffi Musiker. 33 00:01:13.260 --> 00:01:15.810 They'll be disclosing all the classified information 34 00:01:15.810 --> 00:01:17.640 behind this week's episode. 35 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:19.620 Speaking of classified information, 36 00:01:19.620 --> 00:01:21.180 anybody else still reeling from the revelation 37 00:01:21.180 --> 00:01:24.450 that Jack Crusher is the son of Admiral Jean-Luc Picard 38 00:01:24.450 --> 00:01:27.600 and my beloved spacemom, Dr. Beverly Crusher? 39 00:01:27.600 --> 00:01:29.670 Later we'll be exploring the ins and outs 40 00:01:29.670 --> 00:01:33.450 of what it means to be the son of two Starfleet legends. 41 00:01:33.450 --> 00:01:37.890 But first, how about the Raffi and Worf team up? 42 00:01:37.890 --> 00:01:40.050 It's definitely old school meets new school, 43 00:01:40.050 --> 00:01:41.730 and I cannot get enough of it. 44 00:01:41.730 --> 00:01:43.290 In this week's episode they are forced 45 00:01:43.290 --> 00:01:45.030 to face off against each other 46 00:01:45.030 --> 00:01:47.070 with everything on the line. 47 00:01:47.070 --> 00:01:49.020 And that battle to the not-quite-death 48 00:01:49.020 --> 00:01:50.640 inspired us here in The Ready Room 49 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:53.040 to take a look at the making of that intricate fight scene, 50 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:54.870 as well as many of the other stunts 51 00:01:54.870 --> 00:01:57.300 that have wowed us so far this season. 52 00:01:57.300 --> 00:01:59.276 Control room, engage. 53 00:02:09.810 --> 00:02:12.528 I've been a big fan of the stunt team on this show, 54 00:02:12.528 --> 00:02:15.150 and I've been fortunate enough 55 00:02:15.150 --> 00:02:17.430 to have some really great fights. 56 00:02:17.430 --> 00:02:19.841 It's is great working with Ed, 57 00:02:19.841 --> 00:02:22.320 he's a great athlete and a hard worker, 58 00:02:22.320 --> 00:02:25.380 and he wants everything to be, to look good, 59 00:02:25.380 --> 00:02:27.990 and the preparation, and the time, 60 00:02:27.990 --> 00:02:32.010 and the effort that he put into everything for every scene 61 00:02:32.010 --> 00:02:34.200 or every rehearsal that we've done with him, 62 00:02:34.200 --> 00:02:37.170 as far as a fight scene or even something as small 63 00:02:37.170 --> 00:02:40.470 as doing a roll, you know, he wants it to look really good. 64 00:02:40.470 --> 00:02:43.080 It's been two or three sort of big fight moments, 65 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.740 stunt moments, and it's something that I relish doing. 66 00:02:46.740 --> 00:02:48.690 I don't necessarily think I'm any good at it, 67 00:02:48.690 --> 00:02:50.400 but it's something I really enjoy doing 68 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:53.430 and I get a lot of satisfaction 69 00:02:53.430 --> 00:02:54.330 from being a part of that, 70 00:02:54.330 --> 00:02:56.880 and working out the choreography with the, 71 00:02:56.880 --> 00:02:58.830 going through the choreography with the stunt department. 72 00:02:58.830 --> 00:03:01.080 I mean, Guy Fernandez and Matt have been superb 73 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:01.913 the whole way through. 74 00:03:01.913 --> 00:03:05.040 If I were to compare Season 1, 2, and 3, 75 00:03:05.040 --> 00:03:09.000 the biggest thing that we wanted to evolve on screen 76 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:12.270 was showing more of actor action versus, you know, 77 00:03:12.270 --> 00:03:15.164 having to go behind the actor and cut into it really fast. 78 00:03:15.164 --> 00:03:17.250 And you know it's the double, 79 00:03:17.250 --> 00:03:19.080 and all of our actors did a really good job 80 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:21.420 of preparing and rehearsing 81 00:03:21.420 --> 00:03:23.100 to make everything look great on screen. 82 00:03:23.100 --> 00:03:25.230 Previs is basically a pre-visual, 83 00:03:25.230 --> 00:03:29.820 is what it stands for so that we can show directors, 84 00:03:29.820 --> 00:03:32.310 producers, you know, people who are making decisions. 85 00:03:32.310 --> 00:03:36.420 They kinda give us a concept, like, what they want, 86 00:03:36.420 --> 00:03:39.180 and we choreograph it, we shoot it, 87 00:03:39.180 --> 00:03:40.819 we add in all the special effects, visual effects, 88 00:03:40.819 --> 00:03:43.976 and really try to make it as seamless as possible 89 00:03:43.976 --> 00:03:46.140 so that we can shoot it on the day 90 00:03:46.140 --> 00:03:48.030 and have no hiccups whatsoever. 91 00:03:48.030 --> 00:03:50.250 It's basically a blueprint 92 00:03:50.250 --> 00:03:52.770 of what we're gonna shoot on the day. 93 00:03:52.770 --> 00:03:54.690 Fight Choreographer or Fight Coordinator, 94 00:03:54.690 --> 00:03:55.620 his name's Matt Mullins, 95 00:03:55.620 --> 00:03:57.720 he did a great job. 96 00:03:57.720 --> 00:03:59.280 We worked together as a team 97 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:01.890 and tried to come up with the best fight sequence possible 98 00:04:01.890 --> 00:04:06.890 in order to make the words on the page come alive on screen. 99 00:04:15.030 --> 00:04:17.520 It ended up coming out really amazing. 100 00:04:17.520 --> 00:04:21.000 But I sort of feel that the stunt department, 101 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.040 and the stunt men and women in that scene 102 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:24.270 did a lot of the hard work. 103 00:04:24.270 --> 00:04:25.770 I think that's one of the things to remember 104 00:04:25.770 --> 00:04:27.990 when you're doing stunt work. 105 00:04:27.990 --> 00:04:29.954 Some of it is like dancing, 106 00:04:29.954 --> 00:04:31.800 it feels like it should be 107 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:34.350 all very much physical and aggressive, but actually it's, 108 00:04:34.350 --> 00:04:36.840 there's a lot of fluidity there and it's a lot, 109 00:04:36.840 --> 00:04:40.020 a lot to do with being malleable and move around. 110 00:04:40.020 --> 00:04:42.330 There's nothing better than having actors who really care 111 00:04:42.330 --> 00:04:46.770 and really want to make everything look good. 112 00:04:46.770 --> 00:04:49.890 I have to say one of my favorite things about third season 113 00:04:49.890 --> 00:04:52.380 is the fact that I was given an opportunity 114 00:04:52.380 --> 00:04:54.780 to do so many stunts. 115 00:04:54.780 --> 00:04:56.700 Michelle's great to work with. 116 00:04:56.700 --> 00:05:00.900 She is probably one of the hardest-working actors 117 00:05:00.900 --> 00:05:04.950 that I've worked with as far as coming in to rehearse, 118 00:05:04.950 --> 00:05:09.950 wanting to do not just a good job, but a great job. 119 00:05:10.080 --> 00:05:11.760 There's so many female actresses 120 00:05:11.760 --> 00:05:14.640 in acting schools and conservatories that take, you know, 121 00:05:14.640 --> 00:05:16.980 stage combat and, you know, 101 and all that stuff. 122 00:05:16.980 --> 00:05:18.450 And we dream to, like, 123 00:05:18.450 --> 00:05:20.610 "I'll be carrying a broadsword one day," 124 00:05:20.610 --> 00:05:22.320 and that just doesn't happen. 125 00:05:22.320 --> 00:05:24.930 So to get that opportunity, and mind you, 126 00:05:24.930 --> 00:05:27.030 I've been doing this, I'm, you know, 127 00:05:27.030 --> 00:05:29.550 I've been a professional actress for decades, 128 00:05:29.550 --> 00:05:32.790 and this is the first time that, all that training, 129 00:05:32.790 --> 00:05:34.800 I got to apply. And the fact 130 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:37.890 that I get to do it with Michael Dorn, with Worf, 131 00:05:37.890 --> 00:05:41.520 and with our amazing stunt team, 132 00:05:41.520 --> 00:05:45.780 our choreographers and all my stunty guys and girls, 133 00:05:45.780 --> 00:05:46.770 was amazing. 134 00:05:46.770 --> 00:05:48.420 I had the best time, 135 00:05:48.420 --> 00:05:51.780 I was smiling like this every single time, 136 00:05:51.780 --> 00:05:53.810 mind you, exhausted and sweaty. 137 00:05:53.810 --> 00:05:56.580 And I love the directors of each of those episodes 138 00:05:56.580 --> 00:05:59.490 to allow me to do the actual storytelling 139 00:05:59.490 --> 00:06:01.590 that is part of stunts. 140 00:06:01.590 --> 00:06:03.390 Ye olde fight to the death? 141 00:06:03.390 --> 00:06:05.610 She's in incredible shape. 142 00:06:05.610 --> 00:06:08.850 So it was really, really easy 143 00:06:08.850 --> 00:06:11.850 to have these stunt fights with her. 144 00:06:11.850 --> 00:06:15.690 We got along in terms of, as actors. 145 00:06:15.690 --> 00:06:17.160 So fun, and I gotta say 146 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:19.830 it was like a kid in the candy store. 147 00:06:19.830 --> 00:06:22.050 I just wanna do it over and over and over and over again 148 00:06:22.050 --> 00:06:24.150 and I wanna do the longest fight that you could ever find, 149 00:06:24.150 --> 00:06:26.340 you know, choreograph for a woman. 150 00:06:26.340 --> 00:06:27.173 That would be my goal. 151 00:06:27.173 --> 00:06:28.290 But this, it was amazing. 152 00:06:28.290 --> 00:06:30.480 And I really hope everybody enjoys them. 153 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:32.520 Every one of the fights that we've done, 154 00:06:32.520 --> 00:06:34.380 every one of the actual stunts that we've done, 155 00:06:34.380 --> 00:06:36.120 whether it's pulling people in the walls 156 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:37.890 or huge fight sequences. 157 00:06:37.890 --> 00:06:42.690 You know, I'm really happy for the way they came out 158 00:06:42.690 --> 00:06:45.720 and I'm excited for people to see this season. 159 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:48.150 Done some really cool things and, you know, 160 00:06:48.150 --> 00:06:50.400 hopefully the fans love it. 161 00:06:53.887 --> 00:06:56.820 Star Trek has had some great pairings over the years. 162 00:06:56.820 --> 00:06:59.760 There's Kirk and Spock, O'Brien and Bashir, 163 00:06:59.760 --> 00:07:01.350 Garak and Bashir. 164 00:07:01.350 --> 00:07:04.533 I'm thrilled to be talking to my new favorite Trek team, 165 00:07:04.533 --> 00:07:06.570 Worf and Raffi, Michael Dorn and Michelle Hurd. 166 00:07:06.570 --> 00:07:08.923 Thank you so much for being here, today. 167 00:07:08.923 --> 00:07:09.893 Thank you. 168 00:07:09.893 --> 00:07:11.730 Thank you for saying such nice things. That's sweet. 169 00:07:11.730 --> 00:07:13.860 I love these characters together. 170 00:07:13.860 --> 00:07:14.980 You do too, right? 171 00:07:14.980 --> 00:07:15.813 [Michael] Yes, I do. 172 00:07:15.813 --> 00:07:16.646 [Michelle] Yes, I do. 173 00:07:16.646 --> 00:07:17.772 - It jumps off the screen. - Absolutely. 174 00:07:17.772 --> 00:07:18.840 - Yes, yes. - Absolutely love it- 175 00:07:18.840 --> 00:07:19.830 - Yeah. - love it, love it, love it. 176 00:07:19.830 --> 00:07:21.600 Yeah, on a lot of different levels. 177 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:22.770 Right. 178 00:07:22.770 --> 00:07:26.124 Which is really unexpected, but very welcome. 179 00:07:26.124 --> 00:07:26.957 Yeah. 180 00:07:26.957 --> 00:07:29.250 That amazing reveal that Worf- 181 00:07:29.250 --> 00:07:30.630 - Isn't that the best? - is Raffi's handler. 182 00:07:30.630 --> 00:07:32.790 I absolutely didn't see that coming. 183 00:07:32.790 --> 00:07:35.040 It was such a wonderful surprise. 184 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:38.070 I just want to know, these two characters coming together, 185 00:07:38.070 --> 00:07:40.770 you two actors coming together, 186 00:07:40.770 --> 00:07:42.030 talk about the beginning 187 00:07:42.030 --> 00:07:44.700 of the relationship between the two characters 188 00:07:44.700 --> 00:07:46.560 and bringing it to life on screen. 189 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:48.030 Well, you know, for me, 190 00:07:48.030 --> 00:07:50.970 sort of my whole journey on my three seasons here 191 00:07:50.970 --> 00:07:53.850 in Star Trek, I have been spoiled by the people 192 00:07:53.850 --> 00:07:55.690 that I've been, you know, had the opportunity to work with. 193 00:07:55.690 --> 00:07:57.210 The first season, 194 00:07:57.210 --> 00:07:58.590 majority of time was Patrick, 195 00:07:58.590 --> 00:08:00.270 second season with Jeri Ryan, 196 00:08:00.270 --> 00:08:04.290 and then third season 197 00:08:04.290 --> 00:08:05.970 with Michael Dorn. 198 00:08:05.970 --> 00:08:09.330 I mean, it's, you know, when Terry pitched it and told me, 199 00:08:09.330 --> 00:08:11.010 I was just like, "Yes, yes, yes, yes." 200 00:08:11.010 --> 00:08:12.000 And then so excited. 201 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:12.990 And then to meet him. 202 00:08:12.990 --> 00:08:16.895 I mean, we are, I, you know, I adore this man. 203 00:08:16.895 --> 00:08:18.253 - Me too. - I had such a great time. 204 00:08:18.253 --> 00:08:19.275 We were really collaborative 205 00:08:19.275 --> 00:08:22.170 and you know, we explored stuff, 206 00:08:22.170 --> 00:08:26.490 and we vetted things out, and we just work together. 207 00:08:26.490 --> 00:08:29.760 We enjoyed each other, and what we were doing, 208 00:08:29.760 --> 00:08:31.020 and what we were creating. 209 00:08:31.020 --> 00:08:32.940 And you know, it's sort of interesting, like, 210 00:08:32.940 --> 00:08:35.910 how was Raffi and Worf to pair up? 211 00:08:35.910 --> 00:08:38.130 We are two characters 212 00:08:38.130 --> 00:08:40.110 that have been kind of outsiders 213 00:08:40.110 --> 00:08:41.430 in our universe. - Yes. 214 00:08:41.430 --> 00:08:42.472 Anyway. - Yes. 215 00:08:42.472 --> 00:08:43.305 Big time, yeah. 216 00:08:43.305 --> 00:08:44.236 - Big time. - Yeah. 217 00:08:44.236 --> 00:08:45.069 - And so- - I loved that. 218 00:08:45.069 --> 00:08:45.902 - You know? - Yeah. 219 00:08:45.902 --> 00:08:48.360 And so it kind of makes sense 220 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:51.300 that we would find each other and click. 221 00:08:51.300 --> 00:08:53.910 And even though the click is not exactly 222 00:08:53.910 --> 00:08:55.890 'cause it's yin and yang, 223 00:08:55.890 --> 00:08:57.150 that's a perfect click, though. 224 00:08:57.150 --> 00:09:00.150 You know, I just, I mean, for the moment I met him on stage, 225 00:09:00.150 --> 00:09:01.467 but I have to say, you know, 226 00:09:01.467 --> 00:09:04.800 I'm sort of in awe, you know, like this, you know, 227 00:09:04.800 --> 00:09:06.450 and he was just so kind and generous 228 00:09:06.450 --> 00:09:09.630 and never made me feel anything other than an equal. 229 00:09:09.630 --> 00:09:12.780 She and I, I think they were surprised. 230 00:09:12.780 --> 00:09:13.613 [Michelle] I do too. 231 00:09:13.613 --> 00:09:14.446 - Totally. - I do too. 232 00:09:14.446 --> 00:09:15.840 - Because. - [Wil] They didn't expect 233 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:17.560 the two of you to have the chemistry you have. 234 00:09:17.560 --> 00:09:18.810 - [Michelle] Yeah. - I think they thought 235 00:09:18.810 --> 00:09:20.880 that we were, you know, we were competent enough 236 00:09:20.880 --> 00:09:23.003 to where we could work together. 237 00:09:23.003 --> 00:09:25.410 But I don't think that they realized, 238 00:09:25.410 --> 00:09:27.337 or they kinda went, "Oh my God, 239 00:09:27.337 --> 00:09:30.360 these guys are are putting stuff 240 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:31.277 that we never thought 241 00:09:31.277 --> 00:09:33.720 into this relationship." 242 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:34.620 I mean, we even had that, 243 00:09:34.620 --> 00:09:37.050 like during lots of our fight scene stuff, 244 00:09:37.050 --> 00:09:39.660 in the very, the first, when I come 245 00:09:39.660 --> 00:09:40.920 and you're doing your thing 246 00:09:40.920 --> 00:09:44.043 and there's a little gun disarm, and the knife. 247 00:09:44.880 --> 00:09:47.200 We really created that. 248 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:48.033 - Yeah. - Because we were like- 249 00:09:48.033 --> 00:09:48.866 - No kidding? - Yeah. 250 00:09:48.866 --> 00:09:49.699 'Cause we were like, "Oh, you know, 251 00:09:49.699 --> 00:09:51.090 it would be cool is if it's something really quick, 252 00:09:51.090 --> 00:09:53.400 and sharp, and, not some big flourish, 253 00:09:53.400 --> 00:09:55.350 but it's just," and then he hands the gun back, 254 00:09:55.350 --> 00:09:57.626 and I mean, that was stuff that came out of us. 255 00:09:57.626 --> 00:10:01.060 The arms shake, and there were so many moments that, 256 00:10:01.060 --> 00:10:02.880 just within it, 257 00:10:02.880 --> 00:10:04.650 we would talk and we were doing it, 258 00:10:04.650 --> 00:10:05.790 and we're like, "You know what? 259 00:10:05.790 --> 00:10:07.740 What feels good or feels organic 260 00:10:07.740 --> 00:10:08.603 is if we did something like that." 261 00:10:08.603 --> 00:10:11.700 I mean, it was a, really, a collaboration. 262 00:10:11.700 --> 00:10:13.920 I'm very excited to go watch this again 263 00:10:13.920 --> 00:10:15.150 with that knowledge. 264 00:10:15.150 --> 00:10:17.670 And also the other thing too is that, 265 00:10:17.670 --> 00:10:22.670 on a lot of levels, we are very close spiritually 266 00:10:22.950 --> 00:10:27.510 in terms of how we see the world outside of this, you know, 267 00:10:27.510 --> 00:10:28.440 this little- - Sure. 268 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:29.940 cocoon that we are in. 269 00:10:29.940 --> 00:10:33.113 And so we bonded that way. 270 00:10:33.113 --> 00:10:37.680 And so, and you know, and so it just was a total package. 271 00:10:37.680 --> 00:10:38.910 Michael, when I came back 272 00:10:38.910 --> 00:10:40.680 to be the Traveler in Season 2, 273 00:10:40.680 --> 00:10:44.430 I went through some homework, that was really fun for me. 274 00:10:44.430 --> 00:10:47.040 I went back and rewatched some of our old episodes 275 00:10:47.040 --> 00:10:48.480 and I spent a lot of time thinking 276 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:51.750 about what Wesley has experienced in all this time 277 00:10:51.750 --> 00:10:53.250 and how he has changed. 278 00:10:53.250 --> 00:10:54.660 Did you have a similar process? 279 00:10:54.660 --> 00:10:58.890 Part of the process was, I myself, 280 00:10:58.890 --> 00:11:00.390 as I am going through a journey. 281 00:11:00.390 --> 00:11:02.280 And I believe that, 282 00:11:02.280 --> 00:11:04.560 you know, life is a journey, it's not a destination, 283 00:11:04.560 --> 00:11:06.630 and all of that stuff. 284 00:11:06.630 --> 00:11:09.180 And so that was what I wanted to bring to it, 285 00:11:09.180 --> 00:11:10.650 is that he's always been, I mean, 286 00:11:10.650 --> 00:11:12.000 he's always been searching. 287 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:12.839 - Right. - Yeah. 288 00:11:12.839 --> 00:11:13.672 You know, he's always going, 289 00:11:13.672 --> 00:11:15.030 "Well, you know, Klingons are the best, 290 00:11:15.030 --> 00:11:16.620 No, they're not really..." you know? 291 00:11:16.620 --> 00:11:17.460 "Well, humans are the- 292 00:11:17.460 --> 00:11:19.170 no, they're not really. 293 00:11:19.170 --> 00:11:20.520 Well, I should be. 294 00:11:20.520 --> 00:11:22.170 No, that's not right either." 295 00:11:22.170 --> 00:11:23.003 You know? 296 00:11:23.003 --> 00:11:24.180 So it's all this. 297 00:11:24.180 --> 00:11:28.050 And so finally this is where he realizes, 298 00:11:28.050 --> 00:11:30.027 finally hits him that life is a journey. 299 00:11:30.027 --> 00:11:31.257 Yeah. 300 00:11:31.257 --> 00:11:34.890 And that he can be all of these things, 301 00:11:34.890 --> 00:11:36.990 he doesn't have to be one thing. 302 00:11:36.990 --> 00:11:38.640 - He can be a pacifist, - That's right. 303 00:11:38.640 --> 00:11:40.655 and he could cut people's heads off. 304 00:11:40.655 --> 00:11:41.488 That's right. 305 00:11:41.488 --> 00:11:43.020 And the thing with he and Raffi 306 00:11:43.020 --> 00:11:45.420 is that he's learning from her, too. 307 00:11:45.420 --> 00:11:46.253 - Yeah. - A lot. 308 00:11:46.253 --> 00:11:47.700 A lot. 309 00:11:47.700 --> 00:11:50.430 All the Star Trek iterations, 310 00:11:50.430 --> 00:11:51.270 I've been fortunate 311 00:11:51.270 --> 00:11:53.820 where they've written very good stuff for me. 312 00:11:53.820 --> 00:11:55.950 And I hadn't, I didn't have to go up to there 313 00:11:55.950 --> 00:11:57.759 and bang on the desk and say, 314 00:11:57.759 --> 00:12:00.940 "Oh, you know, I need more this, I need more of that." 315 00:12:00.940 --> 00:12:02.100 It's always been really, you know, 316 00:12:02.100 --> 00:12:04.860 imaginative and risky. 317 00:12:04.860 --> 00:12:05.910 I'm gonna jump ahead a little bit 318 00:12:05.910 --> 00:12:06.743 and ask you- - Please do. 319 00:12:06.743 --> 00:12:07.620 I'm just gonna ask you a question 320 00:12:07.620 --> 00:12:09.840 I was gonna ask you later because you bring it up. 321 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:13.530 I didn't know this, until I was doing homework for today. 322 00:12:13.530 --> 00:12:15.930 Like, I guess I was passively aware of it, 323 00:12:15.930 --> 00:12:17.370 but I didn't actually put it together. 324 00:12:17.370 --> 00:12:20.910 You, Michael Dorn, have been in more episodes of Star Trek 325 00:12:20.910 --> 00:12:22.200 than any other actor. 326 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:24.660 Worf, the character, has been in more episodes 327 00:12:24.660 --> 00:12:27.719 of more Star Trek series than any other character- 328 00:12:27.719 --> 00:12:28.920 - That's amazing. - You know that, 329 00:12:28.920 --> 00:12:30.450 I'm sure there's a huge portion of the audience 330 00:12:30.450 --> 00:12:31.920 that already knows that. - Yeah. 331 00:12:31.920 --> 00:12:34.050 I didn't know that. - [Michelle] Same. 332 00:12:34.050 --> 00:12:36.660 That would make Worf just mathematically 333 00:12:36.660 --> 00:12:38.580 the most developed character- 334 00:12:38.580 --> 00:12:39.413 - Yeah. - Yeah. 335 00:12:39.413 --> 00:12:40.270 in all of Star Trek. - Whoa. 336 00:12:40.270 --> 00:12:41.880 - Yeah. - Yeah, that's right. 337 00:12:41.880 --> 00:12:44.400 I didn't know that until five or six years ago, 338 00:12:44.400 --> 00:12:45.600 seven years ago, 339 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:46.433 when somebody told me. 340 00:12:46.433 --> 00:12:47.266 Yeah 341 00:12:47.266 --> 00:12:49.230 I didn't even, didn't even dawn on me. 342 00:12:49.230 --> 00:12:50.550 What did it feel like? 343 00:12:50.550 --> 00:12:52.820 Like, I am feeling, "Oh my, that's amazing." 344 00:12:52.820 --> 00:12:54.543 Like, did you have a moment, 345 00:12:54.543 --> 00:12:55.376 like that? 346 00:12:55.376 --> 00:12:57.180 Well, you know, it, yeah. 347 00:12:57.180 --> 00:12:59.220 It was sort of like, 348 00:12:59.220 --> 00:13:01.800 "Oh, you know, I did have a career," 349 00:13:01.800 --> 00:13:03.575 you know? 350 00:13:04.675 --> 00:13:05.840 I'm not so bad. 351 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:06.701 Not so bad. 352 00:13:06.701 --> 00:13:08.340 You know, I mean, it's one of those things 353 00:13:08.340 --> 00:13:10.327 where you look back and you go, 354 00:13:10.327 --> 00:13:13.210 Okay, it's like getting an award or something like that. 355 00:13:13.210 --> 00:13:15.104 - Okay. - It's, you're recognized. 356 00:13:15.104 --> 00:13:15.937 - Right. - I get it. 357 00:13:15.937 --> 00:13:18.390 They don't recognize you- 358 00:13:18.390 --> 00:13:20.640 for how many shows that you've done, 359 00:13:20.640 --> 00:13:22.612 but you recognize it as an actor. 360 00:13:22.612 --> 00:13:24.371 You go, "Oh. Wow." - Yeah. That's right. 361 00:13:25.920 --> 00:13:27.630 That's a milestone. - That's a milestone. 362 00:13:27.630 --> 00:13:28.463 Yeah, for sure. 363 00:13:28.463 --> 00:13:31.770 And there's something about Worf that stands 364 00:13:31.770 --> 00:13:32.603 the test of time. - That resonates, yeah. 365 00:13:32.603 --> 00:13:33.660 That resonates. 366 00:13:33.660 --> 00:13:36.780 That is asked to continue and asked to, you know, 367 00:13:36.780 --> 00:13:39.150 bring those stories to life and asked to represent. 368 00:13:39.150 --> 00:13:40.740 I mean, he's an important character. 369 00:13:40.740 --> 00:13:45.510 Well, I think it's why the Raffi-Worf thing is, 370 00:13:45.510 --> 00:13:47.217 because I think they're both the same, you know? 371 00:13:47.217 --> 00:13:51.255 And I think they both have that sort of thing 372 00:13:51.255 --> 00:13:53.640 that Star Trek needs. 373 00:13:53.640 --> 00:13:57.720 Because Star Trek can get a little ethereal, 374 00:13:57.720 --> 00:14:00.570 and sometimes you need somebody to cut off somebody's head, 375 00:14:00.570 --> 00:14:02.610 or stab him in the hand. 376 00:14:02.610 --> 00:14:03.443 I loved that. 377 00:14:03.443 --> 00:14:04.276 [Michelle] Or just say, [growls]. 378 00:14:04.276 --> 00:14:05.109 I loved that. 379 00:14:05.109 --> 00:14:06.755 That was so cool. 380 00:14:06.755 --> 00:14:08.397 "Ah!" 381 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:11.700 That is one of my favorites. 382 00:14:11.700 --> 00:14:16.700 Do you think Raffi sees some echoes of Elnor in Worf? 383 00:14:16.800 --> 00:14:17.793 Oh, wow. 384 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:22.590 You know, I mean, in the way that, 385 00:14:22.590 --> 00:14:27.210 what she doesn't realize, there's an absence in her heart 386 00:14:27.210 --> 00:14:30.210 for something, for sure. 387 00:14:30.210 --> 00:14:31.470 But I think there's a whole 388 00:14:31.470 --> 00:14:36.470 'nother importance of Worf in Raffi's life. 389 00:14:36.780 --> 00:14:40.500 You know, it's a completely different lean 390 00:14:40.500 --> 00:14:41.477 for her to lean on. 391 00:14:41.477 --> 00:14:42.937 - Right. - I mean. 392 00:14:42.937 --> 00:14:44.580 You know, for me, when I was watching 393 00:14:44.580 --> 00:14:47.820 the first time he addresses her 394 00:14:47.820 --> 00:14:49.170 and he says, "Rafaella." 395 00:14:49.170 --> 00:14:51.863 Nobody calls her Rafaella. 396 00:14:51.863 --> 00:14:53.543 I clocked that real hard. 397 00:14:53.543 --> 00:14:55.230 And that's a huge, that's, it's just- 398 00:14:55.230 --> 00:14:56.820 - And she takes it. - And she takes it. 399 00:14:56.820 --> 00:14:58.350 - She doesn't correct him. - She seems to welcome it. 400 00:14:58.350 --> 00:14:59.670 She absolutely- 401 00:14:59.670 --> 00:15:00.503 it's something 402 00:15:00.503 --> 00:15:03.060 that hearkens back to a time and, you know, 403 00:15:03.060 --> 00:15:05.220 that she has not had for a long time, 404 00:15:05.220 --> 00:15:07.290 someone who sees her in a different way. 405 00:15:07.290 --> 00:15:08.760 He sees her. 406 00:15:08.760 --> 00:15:10.950 You know, she's still going through all of her stuff, 407 00:15:10.950 --> 00:15:11.880 all of her stuff. 408 00:15:11.880 --> 00:15:13.680 She's struggling and she's trying, 409 00:15:13.680 --> 00:15:16.447 and she's doing the best she can, but he sees her, he says, 410 00:15:16.447 --> 00:15:17.520 "You're a warrior." 411 00:15:17.520 --> 00:15:18.690 It's not that she looks for that, 412 00:15:18.690 --> 00:15:19.837 but she's always being told, 413 00:15:19.837 --> 00:15:21.480 "No, you're not right," whatever. 414 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:22.770 And she is generally right. 415 00:15:22.770 --> 00:15:24.690 Whenever she has a conspiracy situation, 416 00:15:24.690 --> 00:15:26.710 she's generally right. - She's generally right. 417 00:15:26.710 --> 00:15:27.543 She's generally right. 418 00:15:27.543 --> 00:15:28.376 And I think that, 419 00:15:28.376 --> 00:15:31.730 so it's not so much of an Elnor because Elnor to her was, 420 00:15:31.730 --> 00:15:32.880 you know, her child, her boy. 421 00:15:32.880 --> 00:15:33.830 Her son. 422 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:39.679 Worf makes her feel not alone, 423 00:15:41.513 --> 00:15:46.513 seen, and not judged by her imperfections. 424 00:15:47.700 --> 00:15:50.160 Raffi, when we see her, 425 00:15:50.160 --> 00:15:53.880 when we are introduced to her in this season. 426 00:15:53.880 --> 00:15:56.310 I was unsure, right? 427 00:15:56.310 --> 00:15:58.050 And I thought you did 428 00:15:58.050 --> 00:16:01.590 just a magnificent job of misdirecting me and the audience, 429 00:16:01.590 --> 00:16:04.680 the way she is misdirecting everyone in District Six. 430 00:16:04.680 --> 00:16:06.240 I'm a recovering alcoholic. 431 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:10.350 I know what it feels like to, like, 432 00:16:10.350 --> 00:16:12.757 go up to the edge of something and just go like, 433 00:16:12.757 --> 00:16:14.610 "This is tough, this is a tough moment." 434 00:16:14.610 --> 00:16:15.513 - That's right. - Right? 435 00:16:15.513 --> 00:16:16.537 That never- 436 00:16:16.537 --> 00:16:18.420 It never bumps up against me 437 00:16:18.420 --> 00:16:20.370 in a way that, like, it feels dangerous. 438 00:16:20.370 --> 00:16:23.130 That feels incredibly dangerous for Raffi. 439 00:16:23.130 --> 00:16:23.963 Yeah. 440 00:16:23.963 --> 00:16:24.796 That she is in this situation, 441 00:16:24.796 --> 00:16:26.280 her sobriety is threatened. 442 00:16:26.280 --> 00:16:27.840 - Absolutely. - Her mental health 443 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:28.673 is threatened. 444 00:16:28.673 --> 00:16:31.320 - Her survival is threatened. - Yep. 445 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:34.440 Just talk to me a little bit about where she is 446 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:37.860 in this very long crucible 447 00:16:37.860 --> 00:16:39.526 that she's been going through. 448 00:16:39.526 --> 00:16:41.250 Well, thank you, and thank you always for sharing 449 00:16:41.250 --> 00:16:42.120 and being so honest. 450 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:43.740 You know, one of the things that I, 451 00:16:43.740 --> 00:16:45.150 and I think we might have spoken 452 00:16:45.150 --> 00:16:48.060 about stuff, this, off camera. 453 00:16:48.060 --> 00:16:50.400 You know, when you have an addiction, 454 00:16:50.400 --> 00:16:52.419 when you're recovering, you know, 455 00:16:52.419 --> 00:16:54.840 we're never out of it. 456 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:56.400 We're never out of it. 457 00:16:56.400 --> 00:17:00.180 You know, drugs, alcohol, sex, eating disorders, 458 00:17:00.180 --> 00:17:02.520 gambling, whatever you wanna call it. 459 00:17:02.520 --> 00:17:05.543 Every day is one day at a time, right? 460 00:17:05.543 --> 00:17:07.200 And we struggle. 461 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:12.200 For Raffi, it's incredibly frail and vulnerable. 462 00:17:12.420 --> 00:17:17.420 She finds being in Starfleet an anchor. 463 00:17:17.520 --> 00:17:20.283 You know, she told that to Picard in Season 1. 464 00:17:21.810 --> 00:17:22.800 It's the structure, 465 00:17:22.800 --> 00:17:24.240 which is sort of interesting 'cause, you know, 466 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:25.080 when you think of Raffi, 467 00:17:25.080 --> 00:17:27.780 you don't think of her as a structured individual, 468 00:17:27.780 --> 00:17:32.610 but it's the concept of security and structure 469 00:17:32.610 --> 00:17:35.760 that helps her stay on her wagon. 470 00:17:38.520 --> 00:17:42.840 And in that, one of the most important things about Raffi 471 00:17:42.840 --> 00:17:44.430 is that she cares so much 472 00:17:44.430 --> 00:17:45.630 and she wants to make a difference. 473 00:17:45.630 --> 00:17:46.463 And she wants 474 00:17:46.463 --> 00:17:47.820 to make sure people are safe. 475 00:17:47.820 --> 00:17:50.700 And what is bestowed upon her, she wants to carry out. 476 00:17:50.700 --> 00:17:52.740 So, she will risk herself, 477 00:17:52.740 --> 00:17:55.350 she will put her sobriety on the line 478 00:17:55.350 --> 00:17:57.270 if it means help for other people. 479 00:17:57.270 --> 00:17:58.800 So you really see that with her. 480 00:17:58.800 --> 00:18:01.560 You really see her struggling and, you know, 481 00:18:01.560 --> 00:18:03.240 like that moment when she drops that down, 482 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:06.840 she's there, you know, it's so close to doing that. 483 00:18:06.840 --> 00:18:09.690 You know, she could just go like that and nobody knows, 484 00:18:09.690 --> 00:18:10.523 nobody would know. 485 00:18:10.523 --> 00:18:11.356 - There's a lot of us- - And it's so hard. 486 00:18:11.356 --> 00:18:12.930 in the audience who felt that moment 487 00:18:12.930 --> 00:18:14.335 in a particular way. 488 00:18:14.335 --> 00:18:15.168 Yeah. 489 00:18:15.168 --> 00:18:17.970 Like, I didn't expect that in Star Trek. 490 00:18:17.970 --> 00:18:18.803 Right. 491 00:18:18.803 --> 00:18:19.914 Big feelings for Star Trek. 492 00:18:19.914 --> 00:18:20.747 Right. 493 00:18:20.747 --> 00:18:21.840 Which is kind of what Michael said. 494 00:18:21.840 --> 00:18:25.586 These are things that need to be told in Star Trek, 495 00:18:25.586 --> 00:18:26.790 'cause our world is changing. 496 00:18:26.790 --> 00:18:28.620 There are so many, you know, challenges. 497 00:18:28.620 --> 00:18:31.373 Everybody's got challenges these days. 498 00:18:31.373 --> 00:18:32.820 You know, what you see when you meet somebody, 499 00:18:32.820 --> 00:18:35.040 you don't know what's happening behind the scenes. 500 00:18:35.040 --> 00:18:35.908 Right. 501 00:18:35.908 --> 00:18:38.250 And in order to amplify that, that they're not alone, 502 00:18:38.250 --> 00:18:39.360 that we're all going through this, 503 00:18:39.360 --> 00:18:41.760 that you never know who's struggling. 504 00:18:41.760 --> 00:18:44.010 We need to put it on this kind of a platform. 505 00:18:44.010 --> 00:18:47.216 It speaks to so many and it's important to be in a universe 506 00:18:47.216 --> 00:18:49.680 where there are so many people who are ethereal. 507 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:50.880 To realize that, 508 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:52.860 you know, not everybody's ethereal, 509 00:18:52.860 --> 00:18:54.300 not everybody's perfect. 510 00:18:54.300 --> 00:18:57.630 And it's still okay. And you're fine, you're fine. 511 00:18:57.630 --> 00:18:59.533 Tomorrow will be another day. 512 00:18:59.533 --> 00:19:00.600 I first thought it was really cool 513 00:19:00.600 --> 00:19:02.617 that Star Trek kind of looks at the audience and says, 514 00:19:02.617 --> 00:19:04.050 "Hey, there is this place in the future 515 00:19:04.050 --> 00:19:05.340 for you specifically." 516 00:19:05.340 --> 00:19:06.240 - For you specifically. 517 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:08.130 "And for the person next to you specifically." 518 00:19:08.130 --> 00:19:09.030 - That's right. - And I just kind of like 519 00:19:09.030 --> 00:19:09.863 that Star Trek, that 520 00:19:09.863 --> 00:19:11.460 this says there's a place in the future 521 00:19:11.460 --> 00:19:12.780 for people who struggle. - Absolutely. 522 00:19:12.780 --> 00:19:14.550 And we struggle through it together. 523 00:19:14.550 --> 00:19:15.900 Absolutely. 524 00:19:15.900 --> 00:19:18.180 Most amazing transitions that I've ever done. 525 00:19:18.180 --> 00:19:19.571 Speaking of the struggle, 526 00:19:19.571 --> 00:19:22.170 let's talk about the amazing fight. 527 00:19:22.170 --> 00:19:23.003 Well, there you go. 528 00:19:23.003 --> 00:19:26.040 Let's talk about the huge, incredible fight, 529 00:19:26.040 --> 00:19:29.070 which I literally just found out from the two of you 530 00:19:29.070 --> 00:19:31.920 was intended to be significantly longer 531 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:33.540 than it actually is in the episode. 532 00:19:33.540 --> 00:19:35.633 We in the audience are like, 533 00:19:35.633 --> 00:19:37.080 "That was amazing." 534 00:19:37.080 --> 00:19:38.190 Tell us what we missed. 535 00:19:38.190 --> 00:19:40.110 First of all, it was a longer fight. 536 00:19:40.110 --> 00:19:40.943 Much longer fight. 537 00:19:40.943 --> 00:19:41.776 Much longer. 538 00:19:41.776 --> 00:19:45.240 There's a relationship going on. 539 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:46.170 In the fight. 540 00:19:46.170 --> 00:19:47.310 - Yes. - Yes. 541 00:19:47.310 --> 00:19:48.373 - That's the thing. - There was- 542 00:19:48.373 --> 00:19:49.206 - There was- - A relationship 543 00:19:49.206 --> 00:19:50.161 in the fight. And communication- 544 00:19:50.161 --> 00:19:51.357 - Right. - and communication 545 00:19:51.357 --> 00:19:52.230 and everything. 546 00:19:52.230 --> 00:19:53.970 It comes through in what we saw. 547 00:19:53.970 --> 00:19:55.140 - It does. - Yeah. 548 00:19:55.140 --> 00:19:56.250 But it was truncated. 549 00:19:56.250 --> 00:19:58.073 - Yeah. - It was very truncated. 550 00:19:58.073 --> 00:19:59.250 - And so. - And you know, 551 00:19:59.250 --> 00:20:02.280 there's, you know, our stunt team, our choreographers, 552 00:20:02.280 --> 00:20:04.530 you know, we spent weeks and, you know, 553 00:20:04.530 --> 00:20:06.480 working with them and creating this. 554 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:07.830 And creating the- 555 00:20:07.830 --> 00:20:09.930 'cause in that moment, in that scene, 556 00:20:09.930 --> 00:20:11.190 where Krinn is like, "Okay, you know, 557 00:20:11.190 --> 00:20:13.143 you're gonna fight to the death." 558 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:17.532 The other parts of the fight was us sort of, 559 00:20:17.532 --> 00:20:18.877 in the fight, sorta going, 560 00:20:18.877 --> 00:20:19.710 "What are you doing? 561 00:20:19.710 --> 00:20:20.543 What's going on?" 562 00:20:20.543 --> 00:20:21.960 I thought, "Why are we doing this kinda stuff?" 563 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:23.310 And sort of feeling each other out 564 00:20:23.310 --> 00:20:26.204 and trying to get that communication and seeing each other. 565 00:20:26.204 --> 00:20:27.037 And then- 566 00:20:27.037 --> 00:20:29.250 And then there was a moment of like, "Oh." 567 00:20:29.250 --> 00:20:30.083 - Yeah. - Right. 568 00:20:30.083 --> 00:20:30.990 "We're gonna mess with them." 569 00:20:30.990 --> 00:20:31.823 Copy that. 570 00:20:31.823 --> 00:20:34.320 If the goal is to leave the audience wanting more. 571 00:20:34.320 --> 00:20:35.310 Aw. 572 00:20:35.310 --> 00:20:36.990 I mean, I was very much left wanting more- 573 00:20:36.990 --> 00:20:38.656 - Oh good - after that. 574 00:20:38.656 --> 00:20:39.489 - Well. - It was... 575 00:20:39.489 --> 00:20:40.322 - Oh good. - Well, then that's- 576 00:20:40.322 --> 00:20:41.753 thrilling to watch. 577 00:20:41.753 --> 00:20:42.586 Oh, I'm so glad. 578 00:20:42.586 --> 00:20:43.710 Talk to me a bit about Kirk Acevedo, 579 00:20:43.710 --> 00:20:46.163 who plays the Vulcan gangster Krinn. 580 00:20:46.163 --> 00:20:47.130 Oh my God, is he not amazing? 581 00:20:47.130 --> 00:20:48.420 - Jesus. - He was good. 582 00:20:48.420 --> 00:20:50.010 - Yeah. - And he was so methodical. 583 00:20:50.010 --> 00:20:51.420 You saw that, like- - Scary. 584 00:20:51.420 --> 00:20:53.929 Oh my God, his pace, his voice. 585 00:20:53.929 --> 00:20:55.047 He's just a, 586 00:20:55.047 --> 00:20:56.400 and we both kept saying that, like, 587 00:20:56.400 --> 00:20:58.507 we did the one rehearsal and then we were both like, 588 00:20:58.507 --> 00:20:59.610 "He's really good." 589 00:20:59.610 --> 00:21:02.250 Do you remember when we were doing Next Generation? 590 00:21:02.250 --> 00:21:04.110 Every now and then, but once a season, 591 00:21:04.110 --> 00:21:06.277 some crazy famous person was like, 592 00:21:06.277 --> 00:21:08.070 "I'm gonna come be on Next Generation." 593 00:21:08.070 --> 00:21:09.840 I remember Mick Fleetwood. 594 00:21:09.840 --> 00:21:11.550 What a handsome race. 595 00:21:11.550 --> 00:21:13.320 And then like, even before Whoopi, right? 596 00:21:13.320 --> 00:21:14.407 I mean, and we were just like, 597 00:21:14.407 --> 00:21:16.440 "Wow, these people wanna be on Star Trek?" 598 00:21:16.440 --> 00:21:18.480 The radio guys. 599 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:20.610 So many radio guys. 600 00:21:20.610 --> 00:21:22.251 All the morning guys, Mark and Brian. 601 00:21:22.251 --> 00:21:23.103 Mark and Brian. 602 00:21:23.103 --> 00:21:24.547 And John Tesh was a Klingon- 603 00:21:24.547 --> 00:21:27.180 - Right, John Tesh. - one time. 604 00:21:27.180 --> 00:21:30.220 There was a moment where I realized 605 00:21:31.410 --> 00:21:32.670 really big deal people, 606 00:21:32.670 --> 00:21:35.513 super duper wanna be part of Star Trek. 607 00:21:35.513 --> 00:21:36.690 People that you wouldn't suspect. 608 00:21:36.690 --> 00:21:39.203 That you would never suspect. 609 00:21:39.203 --> 00:21:42.450 Remember I was on an airplane going to a convention, 610 00:21:42.450 --> 00:21:47.450 or coming home, and Lou Rawls gets on the airplane, 611 00:21:47.520 --> 00:21:48.810 and of course, me, I'm going. 612 00:21:48.810 --> 00:21:50.551 "Lou." 613 00:21:50.551 --> 00:21:51.773 Wow! 614 00:21:51.773 --> 00:21:54.450 And he gets in and he sits in front of me. 615 00:21:54.450 --> 00:21:56.040 And this is early. 616 00:21:56.040 --> 00:21:57.960 This is not, this is early. 617 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:01.800 Maybe third or fourth season, or something like that. 618 00:22:01.800 --> 00:22:03.120 And he just turns around, 619 00:22:03.120 --> 00:22:06.046 and he goes, "I love your show." 620 00:22:06.046 --> 00:22:08.490 I mean, right there. 621 00:22:08.490 --> 00:22:09.630 - I went- - Done. 622 00:22:09.630 --> 00:22:10.493 How did you not just die? 623 00:22:10.493 --> 00:22:11.597 - I know. - I did, I did. 624 00:22:11.597 --> 00:22:12.930 I did a little bit, right? 625 00:22:12.930 --> 00:22:14.190 Oh, a lot, a lot. 626 00:22:14.190 --> 00:22:16.645 I went, "Well, well, thank you very much." 627 00:22:16.645 --> 00:22:18.089 That was in a high voice. 628 00:22:18.089 --> 00:22:20.273 - And that's the- - Yeah. 629 00:22:20.273 --> 00:22:22.500 those are the people that you kinda go, 630 00:22:22.500 --> 00:22:23.440 "You watch?!" 631 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:24.273 - Yeah. - Yeah. 632 00:22:24.273 --> 00:22:25.170 Like you said, 633 00:22:25.170 --> 00:22:28.680 you never know who's gonna come up, you know? 634 00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:31.470 Or who's gonna pop up and go, "Can I do your show?" 635 00:22:31.470 --> 00:22:35.903 It's a really fun measuring stick or something. 636 00:22:35.903 --> 00:22:38.264 You're just like, "Oh, right, I am part of this, 637 00:22:38.264 --> 00:22:41.310 and I gotta remember how unbelievably cool that is." 638 00:22:41.310 --> 00:22:42.990 Well, Gene always used to say, you know, 639 00:22:42.990 --> 00:22:44.250 "It's a people show." 640 00:22:44.250 --> 00:22:45.197 - For sure. - That's the first thing, 641 00:22:45.197 --> 00:22:46.920 "It's a people show." 642 00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:49.890 And so that's what he was, that's what he was trying, 643 00:22:49.890 --> 00:22:52.170 that's who he was trying to reach. 644 00:22:52.170 --> 00:22:53.670 Are just people. - People. 645 00:22:53.670 --> 00:22:55.170 Not any particular. 646 00:22:55.170 --> 00:22:56.640 Just people in general. 647 00:22:56.640 --> 00:22:58.830 In fact, a lot of those shows, 648 00:22:58.830 --> 00:23:03.080 the B movies and the TV shows in the '50s and '60s- 649 00:23:04.410 --> 00:23:07.680 that's what they were about, is showing our society, 650 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:09.300 showing the people and, you know, 651 00:23:09.300 --> 00:23:11.970 everything about the racism, about balance of power, 652 00:23:11.970 --> 00:23:13.560 about destroying each other. 653 00:23:13.560 --> 00:23:14.595 Everything. 654 00:23:14.595 --> 00:23:18.120 And that was science fiction in those days. 655 00:23:18.120 --> 00:23:20.760 So that everybody could go, "Oh wow. 656 00:23:20.760 --> 00:23:21.960 This is who we are." 657 00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:22.793 That's right. 658 00:23:22.793 --> 00:23:23.626 I see myself. 659 00:23:23.626 --> 00:23:24.543 Yeah, I see my family. 660 00:23:24.543 --> 00:23:25.376 I see my family. 661 00:23:25.376 --> 00:23:26.209 I see my- I see my neighbors. 662 00:23:26.209 --> 00:23:27.042 Yeah. 663 00:23:27.042 --> 00:23:30.240 So, Picard is wrapping up this season. 664 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:31.800 And that will be, 665 00:23:31.800 --> 00:23:33.480 you know, Star Trek: Picard has had, 666 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:36.300 will have had, its amazing run. 667 00:23:36.300 --> 00:23:37.135 Yeah. 668 00:23:37.135 --> 00:23:38.542 - What does that feel like- - Oh my God, Wil. 669 00:23:38.542 --> 00:23:40.208 - for you? 670 00:23:40.208 --> 00:23:42.450 Like, what, do you wanna talk about that at all? 671 00:23:42.450 --> 00:23:43.477 'Cause to me it feels like, 672 00:23:43.477 --> 00:23:44.700 "What do you mean, it just started?" 673 00:23:44.700 --> 00:23:45.533 Oh my God, 674 00:23:45.533 --> 00:23:50.520 I think I actually said this to Alex and Terry on Monday 675 00:23:50.520 --> 00:23:52.385 when we had TCAs, 676 00:23:52.385 --> 00:23:53.730 'cause we were there with Patrick, 677 00:23:53.730 --> 00:23:56.220 and Gates, and Jeri, and Michael and everybody, 678 00:23:56.220 --> 00:23:58.890 and we were just talking about all of it and they were 679 00:23:58.890 --> 00:24:00.540 saying how much they enjoyed 680 00:24:00.540 --> 00:24:01.920 what I've been doing with Raffi, 681 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:03.027 and I was saying thank you to them. 682 00:24:03.027 --> 00:24:05.310 And I said, you know, 683 00:24:05.310 --> 00:24:08.370 the crazy thing is that I'm with people 684 00:24:08.370 --> 00:24:11.820 who have had the glory of experiencing- 685 00:24:11.820 --> 00:24:14.460 I'm sorry, I'm just getting emotional- 686 00:24:14.460 --> 00:24:16.830 but have had the glory of experiencing this family 687 00:24:16.830 --> 00:24:19.737 and this world for decades. 688 00:24:19.737 --> 00:24:22.970 And I've had this for 30 episodes. 689 00:24:22.970 --> 00:24:26.400 For 30 episodes. 690 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:29.880 Like the best family, the best character, 691 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:31.620 the most fulfilling, complex, 692 00:24:31.620 --> 00:24:34.770 challenging experience of my life. 693 00:24:34.770 --> 00:24:37.200 Friends that I now have that are family. 694 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:39.025 And you know, the thing is that, you know, 695 00:24:39.025 --> 00:24:40.761 you're part of the family now and- 696 00:24:40.761 --> 00:24:41.594 - Yeah. - you know, from now on. 697 00:24:41.594 --> 00:24:43.312 From now on. 698 00:24:43.312 --> 00:24:44.145 And jumping from- 699 00:24:44.145 --> 00:24:44.978 With all of our warts and everything. 700 00:24:44.978 --> 00:24:45.811 That's right. 701 00:24:45.811 --> 00:24:46.644 He always says that. 702 00:24:46.644 --> 00:24:48.390 He's like, "You're here, you know, this is it." 703 00:24:48.390 --> 00:24:50.100 But I had, like, the- 704 00:24:50.100 --> 00:24:52.650 I think a couple of months ago I did some ADR 705 00:24:52.650 --> 00:24:54.240 for the last episode. - Oh. 706 00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:55.980 [Wil] Oh God. 707 00:24:55.980 --> 00:24:56.880 - I've done that- - I know. 708 00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:58.230 - Man. - Go. 709 00:24:58.230 --> 00:24:59.063 Oh my God. 710 00:24:59.063 --> 00:25:00.180 And you said those last lines. 711 00:25:00.180 --> 00:25:01.176 At first you're like, 712 00:25:01.176 --> 00:25:02.160 you're messing up a bit because you're like, 713 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:03.557 you don't want it to end. 714 00:25:03.557 --> 00:25:04.390 [Michael And Wil] Yeah. 715 00:25:04.390 --> 00:25:07.022 You know, you're trying to drag it out or whatever. 716 00:25:07.022 --> 00:25:08.880 And then I said the last lines and they're, you know, 717 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:10.687 they play it back and they do it and they're like, 718 00:25:10.687 --> 00:25:12.930 "Well, Michelle, I think we're good." 719 00:25:12.930 --> 00:25:14.089 And you know, 720 00:25:14.089 --> 00:25:15.000 you just don't wanna let go. - Oh God. 721 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:15.889 - Oh. - You know and- 722 00:25:15.889 --> 00:25:16.722 - Man. 723 00:25:16.722 --> 00:25:17.555 - I know that- - And I- 724 00:25:17.555 --> 00:25:18.388 so much. 725 00:25:19.260 --> 00:25:22.500 I think Raffi is such a phenomenal voice 726 00:25:22.500 --> 00:25:24.360 and such an important voice. 727 00:25:24.360 --> 00:25:26.190 And the thought that that's the last time 728 00:25:26.190 --> 00:25:27.941 that I bring her to life is just, seems- 729 00:25:27.941 --> 00:25:28.853 I don't know. 730 00:25:28.853 --> 00:25:29.880 Lemme put it this way. 731 00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:31.080 - We're in space, so- - That's right. 732 00:25:31.080 --> 00:25:32.793 - anything's possible. - Never say never... 733 00:25:32.793 --> 00:25:34.500 Anything's possible. 734 00:25:34.500 --> 00:25:35.333 And I believe that, but... 735 00:25:35.333 --> 00:25:38.430 I mean, I believe I speak for 100% of the audience 736 00:25:38.430 --> 00:25:41.250 when I say we would be super down for A Raffi-Worf show. 737 00:25:41.250 --> 00:25:42.330 I know. 738 00:25:42.330 --> 00:25:43.470 - Come on. - I know, me too. 739 00:25:43.470 --> 00:25:44.303 - Right? - Me too. 740 00:25:44.303 --> 00:25:45.136 - So- - Right? 741 00:25:45.136 --> 00:25:46.203 Oh my God. 742 00:25:46.203 --> 00:25:48.510 It's such an, so much emotion. 743 00:25:48.510 --> 00:25:51.010 - I get it. - That it's almost- 744 00:25:52.050 --> 00:25:53.310 It's hard to put into words. 745 00:25:53.310 --> 00:25:54.780 This has been awesome. 746 00:25:54.780 --> 00:25:57.000 - Wil, thank you. - I've loved chatting 747 00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:58.530 with both of you. - Absolutely. 748 00:25:58.530 --> 00:25:59.790 Thank you for making time to be here. 749 00:25:59.790 --> 00:26:01.876 It's great to seeing you again, Wil. 750 00:26:01.876 --> 00:26:03.149 And I just wanna codify in public 751 00:26:03.149 --> 00:26:04.830 that I actually have the right to do this, 752 00:26:04.830 --> 00:26:06.300 as a member of legacy Star Trek, 753 00:26:06.300 --> 00:26:09.810 you are 1000%, 1000% in this family. 754 00:26:09.810 --> 00:26:10.643 Oh. 755 00:26:10.643 --> 00:26:15.643 And I am so honored and grateful 756 00:26:15.780 --> 00:26:19.830 that we are going to be on the same path now. 757 00:26:19.830 --> 00:26:20.663 Thank you so much. 758 00:26:20.663 --> 00:26:21.990 Really, really thrilled to walk next to you. 759 00:26:21.990 --> 00:26:22.860 Thank you, Wil. 760 00:26:22.860 --> 00:26:24.840 You're so sweet, that just touches my heart. 761 00:26:24.840 --> 00:26:26.580 Thank you so much. 762 00:26:46.380 --> 00:26:49.980 My space baby brother, Jack Crusher, is kind of a big deal. 763 00:26:49.980 --> 00:26:51.150 How big of a deal? 764 00:26:51.150 --> 00:26:53.070 Well, big enough that the entire galaxy 765 00:26:53.070 --> 00:26:54.090 is on the hunt for him. 766 00:26:54.090 --> 00:26:56.490 And let's not forget who his iconic parents are. 767 00:26:56.490 --> 00:26:59.130 Here's a closer look at who Jack Crusher is 768 00:26:59.130 --> 00:27:01.020 and how he fits into everything 769 00:27:01.020 --> 00:27:04.348 that's happened so far in Star Trek: Picard Season 3. 770 00:27:05.340 --> 00:27:06.570 [Seven oF Nine] Your father asked me to hide you, 771 00:27:06.570 --> 00:27:07.653 put this on. 772 00:27:09.030 --> 00:27:11.180 No, no. 773 00:27:11.180 --> 00:27:12.450 No, no, no, I can't do this. 774 00:27:12.450 --> 00:27:15.000 I was so thrilled to play the part because, yeah, 775 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.510 you can be in this high-concept scenario 776 00:27:18.510 --> 00:27:20.070 when you are out in space, 777 00:27:20.070 --> 00:27:21.478 you've being chased by the bad guys, 778 00:27:21.478 --> 00:27:24.000 and the phasers, and all the special effects in the world, 779 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:26.220 and the dramatic score, and the lighting, and everything. 780 00:27:26.220 --> 00:27:28.050 But at the core of it, 781 00:27:28.050 --> 00:27:29.790 you've got a family story going on here, 782 00:27:29.790 --> 00:27:33.060 and you've got an understanding of what it means 783 00:27:33.060 --> 00:27:34.590 to be a father and to be a son, 784 00:27:34.590 --> 00:27:35.820 and to have these battles 785 00:27:35.820 --> 00:27:37.020 and to have these inner conflicts, 786 00:27:37.020 --> 00:27:40.350 which makes it so universally relatable. 787 00:27:40.350 --> 00:27:42.767 Which is why Star Trek works. 788 00:27:46.380 --> 00:27:48.420 When something like Star Trek comes calling, you, 789 00:27:48.420 --> 00:27:49.890 you wanna be involved. 790 00:27:49.890 --> 00:27:54.540 Way back in summer of 2021, I went up for this part. 791 00:27:54.540 --> 00:27:57.180 I felt weird about doing the tape, it wasn't quite working, 792 00:27:57.180 --> 00:27:59.700 it wasn't clicking, and I was almost in tears in my house 793 00:27:59.700 --> 00:28:01.350 and my girlfriend was like, "No, you are doing it again. 794 00:28:01.350 --> 00:28:02.950 You can do this, you're doing it again." 795 00:28:02.950 --> 00:28:04.050 I was like, "Ah, all right, okay, we'll do it." 796 00:28:04.050 --> 00:28:05.880 I did the tapes, sent them off, 797 00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:07.080 and a couple of weeks later 798 00:28:07.080 --> 00:28:09.540 there was this very excited call from my agent. 799 00:28:09.540 --> 00:28:10.380 And then, before I knew it, 800 00:28:10.380 --> 00:28:11.910 after getting visas sorted from my family, 801 00:28:11.910 --> 00:28:15.210 we were out here, having the time of our lives. 802 00:28:15.210 --> 00:28:16.713 I grew up mostly on my own. 803 00:28:17.940 --> 00:28:20.310 Sure, I had my mother, but that's who I am. 804 00:28:20.310 --> 00:28:22.800 I did feel like I could relate to Jack in a way. 805 00:28:22.800 --> 00:28:24.930 I sometimes felt like an outsider 806 00:28:24.930 --> 00:28:26.730 in certain elements of what I've been doing. 807 00:28:26.730 --> 00:28:27.563 And I've always had a sense 808 00:28:27.563 --> 00:28:28.710 of wanting to prove myself, I think. 809 00:28:28.710 --> 00:28:31.350 That is at the core of Jack. 810 00:28:31.350 --> 00:28:35.220 It was subtle at first, but that resemblance to your dad. 811 00:28:35.220 --> 00:28:37.590 No, no, please don't. 812 00:28:37.590 --> 00:28:39.240 He missed a big part of his life. 813 00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:41.220 You know, he knew who his father was, 814 00:28:41.220 --> 00:28:43.533 but he had no connection to him. 815 00:28:45.247 --> 00:28:47.190 A a real family. 816 00:28:47.190 --> 00:28:51.841 Starfleet has been the only family I have ever needed. 817 00:28:52.770 --> 00:28:56.640 That must have been a hugely challenging idea for him. 818 00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.130 Essentially the most famous man in the world is your father, 819 00:28:59.130 --> 00:29:01.320 but you have no relationship with him. 820 00:29:01.320 --> 00:29:03.183 What could have been, had I known. 821 00:29:04.710 --> 00:29:06.243 What might I be. 822 00:29:07.320 --> 00:29:12.180 It comes as such a shock to Jean-Luc, 823 00:29:12.180 --> 00:29:16.620 and my relationship with him is quite turbulent. 824 00:29:16.620 --> 00:29:21.060 I get that you might think that I need this, but I don't. 825 00:29:21.060 --> 00:29:24.330 Every time one of them tries to open the door a little bit, 826 00:29:24.330 --> 00:29:25.620 the one comes in with another comment. 827 00:29:25.620 --> 00:29:28.260 It's a very typical father-son dynamic 828 00:29:28.260 --> 00:29:29.490 where they can't just, 829 00:29:29.490 --> 00:29:32.280 they can't quite get that connection going. 830 00:29:32.280 --> 00:29:34.440 Perhaps you might consider choosing 831 00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:37.473 a more honest vocation. 832 00:29:38.850 --> 00:29:40.653 Starfleet? Me? 833 00:29:42.360 --> 00:29:43.260 For such a brilliant man, 834 00:29:43.260 --> 00:29:46.020 you haven't really been paying much attention, have you? 835 00:29:46.020 --> 00:29:48.960 The whole Jack-Picard relationship is, 836 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:51.990 in some respects, very personal for me. 837 00:29:51.990 --> 00:29:56.370 The fact that it was personal was something that I used 838 00:29:56.370 --> 00:29:59.190 in the performance quite a lot. 839 00:29:59.190 --> 00:30:02.760 I loved working on those scenes. 840 00:30:02.760 --> 00:30:05.490 As much as anything in the three seasons, 841 00:30:05.490 --> 00:30:08.970 they gave me challenging pleasure. 842 00:30:08.970 --> 00:30:11.329 So you're gonna be absolutely fine, I promise. 843 00:30:11.329 --> 00:30:12.769 - Thank you. - Okay? 844 00:30:12.769 --> 00:30:13.602 Yeah. 845 00:30:13.602 --> 00:30:14.910 Let's get you over this way. 846 00:30:14.910 --> 00:30:16.230 Jack, having brought, been brought up 847 00:30:16.230 --> 00:30:18.750 by his mother, Beverly, you take away the bravado, 848 00:30:18.750 --> 00:30:20.340 I think he is inherently sensitive 849 00:30:20.340 --> 00:30:23.190 and he's very acutely aware of what's going on around him, 850 00:30:23.190 --> 00:30:25.350 and I think that comes from Beverly. 851 00:30:25.350 --> 00:30:27.570 You're not okay. 852 00:30:27.570 --> 00:30:29.580 All of this stress, your father, 853 00:30:29.580 --> 00:30:31.233 attempts on your life. 854 00:30:32.993 --> 00:30:34.243 I need to know. 855 00:30:35.790 --> 00:30:39.960 I have a son who's the same age as Ed Speleers, 856 00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:42.360 and we have a deep relationship. 857 00:30:42.360 --> 00:30:44.610 We talk about all kinds of stuff. 858 00:30:44.610 --> 00:30:47.490 And so I wanted to have that kind of a weight 859 00:30:47.490 --> 00:30:49.290 in my relationship with him. 860 00:30:49.290 --> 00:30:52.680 Sensitivity is something that would've been talked about 861 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:54.240 at length in his upbringing. 862 00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:56.070 I think Gates has a great sensitivity as well. 863 00:30:56.070 --> 00:30:58.590 She has a huge sensitivity to all people, to all things, 864 00:30:58.590 --> 00:31:01.170 and I think that that comes through. 865 00:31:01.170 --> 00:31:04.710 We've had lots of giggles and it's been lovely, 866 00:31:04.710 --> 00:31:06.060 it's been really lovely. 867 00:31:06.060 --> 00:31:08.685 How did you know they were all changelings? 868 00:31:12.208 --> 00:31:13.041 I didn't. 869 00:31:15.744 --> 00:31:18.090 There's something very wrong with me. 870 00:31:18.090 --> 00:31:21.720 The visions and this darkness that's brewing inside 871 00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:24.150 and getting greater as Vadic and the Shrike arrive, 872 00:31:24.150 --> 00:31:26.310 and everything is getting more intense, 873 00:31:26.310 --> 00:31:30.420 but it's something that Jack's been harboring much longer. 874 00:31:30.420 --> 00:31:31.253 It's heartbreaking to think 875 00:31:31.253 --> 00:31:33.360 that you feel that there's something wrong with you 876 00:31:33.360 --> 00:31:37.440 and you've got no understanding why or how. 877 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:41.280 And also I suppose you've become numb to it 878 00:31:41.280 --> 00:31:43.590 because you don't know anything else. 879 00:31:43.590 --> 00:31:46.680 I found it a real tall order to get my head around. 880 00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:48.810 But those are the challenges you want as an actor as well. 881 00:31:48.810 --> 00:31:49.643 I loved it. 882 00:31:49.643 --> 00:31:54.417 I feel so honored to have been a part of this family. 883 00:31:54.417 --> 00:31:55.800 I was so welcomed. 884 00:31:55.800 --> 00:31:57.720 I was given such gold to work with. 885 00:31:57.720 --> 00:31:59.190 Yeah, I just, I want it to keep going. 886 00:31:59.190 --> 00:32:01.080 I don't, I want this to be the beginning 887 00:32:01.080 --> 00:32:02.422 of Jack Crusher's journey. 888 00:32:36.281 --> 00:32:38.700 With conspiracies and Changelings around every corner, 889 00:32:38.700 --> 00:32:40.830 you can't trust anyone. 890 00:32:40.830 --> 00:32:43.050 Well, except me, you can totally trust me because, 891 00:32:43.050 --> 00:32:45.240 as far as you know, I'm not a Changeling. 892 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:47.370 You can trust me to give you a preview 893 00:32:47.370 --> 00:32:49.710 of next week's episode, "The Bounty," 894 00:32:49.710 --> 00:32:51.360 with this exclusive clip. 895 00:32:51.360 --> 00:32:53.370 Ro believed that whatever they're planning, 896 00:32:53.370 --> 00:32:56.610 it's somehow tied to Starfleet's Frontier Day. 897 00:32:56.610 --> 00:33:00.379 No better stage on which to make a statement 898 00:33:00.379 --> 00:33:02.190 in less than 48 hours. 899 00:33:02.190 --> 00:33:04.260 We're running out of time. We have no leads. 900 00:33:04.260 --> 00:33:06.570 Which is why we must return to the beginning. 901 00:33:06.570 --> 00:33:09.870 To the scene of the crime, Daystrom Station, 902 00:33:09.870 --> 00:33:13.380 home to Starfleet's most off-the-books tech, 903 00:33:13.380 --> 00:33:16.110 experimental weapons, alien contraband. 904 00:33:16.110 --> 00:33:19.050 A few months ago, Vadic stole a handful 905 00:33:19.050 --> 00:33:20.190 of classified weapons, 906 00:33:20.190 --> 00:33:23.700 namely the portal device you encountered. 907 00:33:23.700 --> 00:33:27.090 Its use at the Recruitment Center, we believe, 908 00:33:27.090 --> 00:33:28.770 was merely a distraction. 909 00:33:28.770 --> 00:33:31.020 To conceal what? 910 00:33:31.020 --> 00:33:32.463 The theft of something else? 911 00:33:33.390 --> 00:33:35.880 Steal the diamonds so nobody checks on the pearls. 912 00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.550 It's obvious, they stole a weapon 10 times more deadly. 913 00:33:38.550 --> 00:33:42.660 So we're looking for a smoking gun that no longer exists. 914 00:33:42.660 --> 00:33:44.580 Then we just follow the smoke. 915 00:33:44.580 --> 00:33:46.860 The only way to identify and retrieve this weapon 916 00:33:46.860 --> 00:33:49.560 is by getting a hold of Daystrom's project manifest, 917 00:33:49.560 --> 00:33:50.760 its inventory. 918 00:33:50.760 --> 00:33:53.010 Which is heavily redacted in the files 919 00:33:53.010 --> 00:33:54.330 that Ro was able to gather. 920 00:33:54.330 --> 00:33:55.530 Exactly. 921 00:33:55.530 --> 00:33:59.160 But the raw data should be on a computer 922 00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:01.380 in the station's primary vault. 923 00:34:01.380 --> 00:34:05.610 So we burgle the very institution hunting us. 924 00:34:05.610 --> 00:34:07.985 Excellent use of the word burgle, Admiral. 925 00:34:09.540 --> 00:34:13.593 Wow, this story just keeps getting better and better. 926 00:34:14.610 --> 00:34:17.010 Thank you to Michael Dorn and Michelle Hurd 927 00:34:17.010 --> 00:34:19.410 for visiting with me this week in The Ready Room. 928 00:34:19.410 --> 00:34:21.150 And thank you especially to all of you 929 00:34:21.150 --> 00:34:23.670 for being here as well! It'd be weird if you weren't. 930 00:34:23.670 --> 00:34:26.010 Next week, I am thrilled to be hosting 931 00:34:26.010 --> 00:34:27.480 a La Forge family get-together, 932 00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:28.740 right here in The Ready Room. 933 00:34:28.740 --> 00:34:31.050 As LeVar Burton, a.k.a. Geordi La Forge, 934 00:34:31.050 --> 00:34:33.570 will be joined by his real-life daughter, Mica Burton, 935 00:34:33.570 --> 00:34:35.670 who plays Geordi's daughter, Alandra La Forge, 936 00:34:35.670 --> 00:34:37.170 and Ashlei Sharpe Chestnut, 937 00:34:37.170 --> 00:34:40.140 who plays the elder La Forge daughter, Sidney. 938 00:34:40.140 --> 00:34:42.450 Until then, I'm Wil Wheaton. 939 00:34:42.450 --> 00:34:44.283 Live long and prosper.