WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.230 --> 00:00:02.750 This week, Blu del Barrio and Ian Alexander join me 2 00:00:02.750 --> 00:00:03.980 to talk about the latest episode 3 00:00:03.980 --> 00:00:05.170 of Star Trek: Discovery. 4 00:00:05.170 --> 00:00:07.350 We find out what the heck that DMA is all about, 5 00:00:07.350 --> 00:00:09.950 we have an exclusive sneak peek at next week's episode 6 00:00:09.950 --> 00:00:11.240 of Discovery heading your way. 7 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:14.140 Report to "The Ready Room" ASAP 'cause all that 8 00:00:14.140 --> 00:00:16.532 and more is happening right now. 9 00:00:24.970 --> 00:00:27.590 Hey, nerds, I'm Wil Wheaton and this is "The Ready Room," 10 00:00:27.590 --> 00:00:29.250 your official behind-the-scenes hub 11 00:00:29.250 --> 00:00:31.130 for all things Star Trek universe. 12 00:00:31.130 --> 00:00:32.890 Today, we're taking a look at the latest episode 13 00:00:32.890 --> 00:00:35.630 of Star Trek: Discovery called "Choose to Live," 14 00:00:35.630 --> 00:00:37.250 a nod to my very favorite 15 00:00:37.250 --> 00:00:40.480 Romulan warrior nuns, the Qowat Milat. 16 00:00:40.480 --> 00:00:43.230 As usual, I must follow the way of absolute candor 17 00:00:43.230 --> 00:00:45.250 and tell you that full spoilers follow 18 00:00:45.250 --> 00:00:47.350 from here on out, so be sure 19 00:00:47.350 --> 00:00:49.870 to watch Episode 3 of Season 4 20 00:00:49.870 --> 00:00:52.760 before joining me back here for all the details. 21 00:00:52.760 --> 00:00:55.963 Please, my friend, choose not to be spoiled. 22 00:00:57.200 --> 00:00:59.630 This week, we have two very special guests joining me 23 00:00:59.630 --> 00:01:02.730 right here in the studio, Ian Alexander and Blu del Barrio 24 00:01:02.730 --> 00:01:05.780 who play Gray and Adira on Star Trek: Discovery. 25 00:01:05.780 --> 00:01:08.510 Now real quick, before we get to that interview, 26 00:01:08.510 --> 00:01:10.630 I'm gonna beg your patient indulgence 27 00:01:10.630 --> 00:01:13.550 for a brief personal sidebar. 28 00:01:13.550 --> 00:01:15.310 It is no secret that I have tremendous 29 00:01:15.310 --> 00:01:17.540 respect and admiration for these two actors. 30 00:01:17.540 --> 00:01:20.620 We share a similar experience as some of 31 00:01:20.620 --> 00:01:25.200 the only young actors on a Star Trek series, 32 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:27.280 and it's comforting to me to know that 33 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:29.580 there are other people in this world 34 00:01:29.580 --> 00:01:33.620 who, in their own way, also know what it's like 35 00:01:33.620 --> 00:01:35.860 to be a kid in Starfleet. 36 00:01:35.860 --> 00:01:39.550 It is a small club, and it's pretty cool to be part of it. 37 00:01:39.550 --> 00:01:40.940 At least, it's cool for me. 38 00:01:40.940 --> 00:01:43.170 I do not presume to speak for anyone else 39 00:01:43.170 --> 00:01:45.510 who meets the membership requirements, 40 00:01:45.510 --> 00:01:48.610 but I do want to share how much Adira 41 00:01:48.610 --> 00:01:51.633 specifically means to me, personally. 42 00:01:52.660 --> 00:01:57.490 As an ensign on Discovery, Adira is everything 43 00:01:57.490 --> 00:02:00.543 I ever hoped Wesley Crusher would be. 44 00:02:01.490 --> 00:02:05.560 Surrounded by extraordinary, accomplished adults, 45 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:10.560 they are a respected, valued, trusted member of their crew 46 00:02:10.950 --> 00:02:13.540 and they don't take it for granted. 47 00:02:13.540 --> 00:02:17.730 We get to watch them work hard to earn and keep it. 48 00:02:17.730 --> 00:02:22.070 Starfleet is better because they are part of it. 49 00:02:22.070 --> 00:02:24.080 In what I think is my best episode 50 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:26.310 of The Next Generation, "Final Mission," 51 00:02:26.310 --> 00:02:30.500 Picard says, "I envy you, Wesley Crusher. 52 00:02:30.500 --> 00:02:34.097 You're just at the beginning of the adventure." 53 00:02:35.140 --> 00:02:38.650 Now, Patrick was as old to me then 54 00:02:38.650 --> 00:02:41.740 as I am to them now. 55 00:02:41.740 --> 00:02:44.350 I did not know what that meant 56 00:02:44.350 --> 00:02:46.570 when Patrick said that then, 57 00:02:46.570 --> 00:02:48.810 but watching Adira and Gray 58 00:02:48.810 --> 00:02:52.843 begin their adventure right now, I do. 59 00:02:53.810 --> 00:02:58.753 I get it, and that, it's pretty cool too. 60 00:02:59.860 --> 00:03:01.740 Thank you for your patient indulgence. 61 00:03:01.740 --> 00:03:05.110 We now return you to "The Ready Room," already in progress. 62 00:03:05.110 --> 00:03:06.290 As you can probably tell, 63 00:03:06.290 --> 00:03:08.660 I am beyond excited for this interview. 64 00:03:08.660 --> 00:03:10.450 It is going to be wonderful, 65 00:03:10.450 --> 00:03:12.730 and of course, that is not all. 66 00:03:12.730 --> 00:03:13.850 A little later, we'll also have 67 00:03:13.850 --> 00:03:15.970 an all-new, exclusive clip to share with you 68 00:03:15.970 --> 00:03:18.940 from next week's episode of Star Trek: Discovery, 69 00:03:18.940 --> 00:03:21.200 but first, we have an official name 70 00:03:21.200 --> 00:03:23.210 for the anomaly that is wreaking havoc 71 00:03:23.210 --> 00:03:25.010 on our beloved Discovery crew, 72 00:03:25.010 --> 00:03:27.870 the DMA or "dark matter anomaly." 73 00:03:27.870 --> 00:03:29.720 Thank you very much, Paul Stamets. 74 00:03:29.720 --> 00:03:30.840 What do you say we check in with 75 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:33.060 some of the cast and creators for the lowdown 76 00:03:33.060 --> 00:03:35.460 on Season 4's mysterious threat. 77 00:03:35.460 --> 00:03:37.763 Control room! Engage. 78 00:03:38.640 --> 00:03:40.870 We jumped ahead to this future 79 00:03:40.870 --> 00:03:43.080 to save the universe from Control, 80 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:45.040 and now the Federation is back. 81 00:03:45.040 --> 00:03:47.450 Starfleet Academy has opened again. 82 00:03:47.450 --> 00:03:49.500 Things are thriving again. 83 00:03:49.500 --> 00:03:52.239 We're rebuilding, and now here comes this DMA, 84 00:03:52.239 --> 00:03:54.970 you know? And I just remember, as Burnham, 85 00:03:54.970 --> 00:03:57.600 thinking, you gotta be kidding me. 86 00:03:57.600 --> 00:04:00.240 Here we are again with this huge threat 87 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:01.773 that could wipe us all out. 88 00:04:07.910 --> 00:04:10.180 The DMA, "dark matter anomaly," 89 00:04:10.180 --> 00:04:12.751 too much of a mouthful to say every time. 90 00:04:12.751 --> 00:04:13.584 Right. 91 00:04:13.584 --> 00:04:15.230 As we see in our current world, 92 00:04:15.230 --> 00:04:17.200 you always try to find names for things. 93 00:04:17.200 --> 00:04:18.690 If there's something happening, 94 00:04:18.690 --> 00:04:20.580 the scientists and the government people, 95 00:04:20.580 --> 00:04:22.760 they always try to find some way to name it. 96 00:04:22.760 --> 00:04:25.830 I think that helps you feel some sense of power over it, 97 00:04:25.830 --> 00:04:29.560 and this thing is so powerful in and of itself 98 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:30.940 that I think anything you can do 99 00:04:30.940 --> 00:04:34.830 to try to do that is helpful because it's-- 100 00:04:34.830 --> 00:04:38.730 it's this chaotic, enormous cloud sort of thing 101 00:04:38.730 --> 00:04:41.460 that gobbles up whatever's around it. 102 00:04:41.460 --> 00:04:45.002 The DMA anomaly is a gravitational force 103 00:04:45.002 --> 00:04:47.480 that can wreak havoc throughout the galaxy. 104 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:50.350 It can smash planets. It can smash suns. 105 00:04:50.350 --> 00:04:52.333 It can destroy solar systems, 106 00:04:53.540 --> 00:04:56.800 and it creates this accretion disc around it 107 00:04:56.800 --> 00:04:59.270 that is just flinging all of these things it destroyed, 108 00:04:59.270 --> 00:05:01.930 planets, solar systems, and it's 109 00:05:01.930 --> 00:05:06.050 the Discovery crew's mission to identify what this is, 110 00:05:06.050 --> 00:05:08.280 to hunt it down and to stop it. 111 00:05:08.280 --> 00:05:11.513 We gathered this data in order to predict its path. 112 00:05:12.661 --> 00:05:14.303 Are you saying we cannot do that? 113 00:05:15.180 --> 00:05:16.230 No, sir, we can't. 114 00:05:16.230 --> 00:05:17.750 It's totally unpredictable. 115 00:05:17.750 --> 00:05:20.100 You know, I think that we have a case 116 00:05:20.100 --> 00:05:21.800 in our current world that we're living through 117 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:23.200 that there's something happening 118 00:05:23.200 --> 00:05:24.340 that we don't know where it came from 119 00:05:24.340 --> 00:05:25.340 or why it came from, exactly. 120 00:05:25.340 --> 00:05:28.400 We have theories, but it still is wreaking havoc. 121 00:05:28.400 --> 00:05:29.240 Lives are at stake. 122 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:31.830 - Your emotional response to factual analysis 123 00:05:31.830 --> 00:05:33.470 is quite illogical. 124 00:05:33.470 --> 00:05:36.250 Present day themes, present day events, 125 00:05:36.250 --> 00:05:37.360 all of those sorts of things are 126 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:39.810 just sort of baked into Trek, and so, 127 00:05:39.810 --> 00:05:42.960 in conceiving of the season, this thing was out there, 128 00:05:42.960 --> 00:05:45.460 and it felt like it was having such an impact 129 00:05:45.460 --> 00:05:47.780 on our own psyches and the greater world, 130 00:05:47.780 --> 00:05:49.520 that it felt like something natural 131 00:05:49.520 --> 00:05:50.353 that we would treat and that 132 00:05:50.353 --> 00:05:51.250 we would talk about on Trek. 133 00:05:51.250 --> 00:05:53.810 So, we looked at that and then looked at 134 00:05:53.810 --> 00:05:55.690 what is our version of that, 135 00:05:55.690 --> 00:05:59.640 and obviously, we didn't want to do a one-to-one with COVID. 136 00:05:59.640 --> 00:06:01.210 We didn't wanna tell the COVID season 137 00:06:01.210 --> 00:06:02.240 'cause we're all living through it. 138 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:03.940 No one wants to watch that. 139 00:06:03.940 --> 00:06:06.440 Trek is always built on hope and optimism 140 00:06:06.440 --> 00:06:09.170 and coming together and we can overcome anything, 141 00:06:09.170 --> 00:06:12.790 and so, how do we infuse that into this story as well? 142 00:06:12.790 --> 00:06:15.900 So, how do we take the big thing that no one understands? 143 00:06:15.900 --> 00:06:17.150 We don't even know what it is. 144 00:06:17.150 --> 00:06:18.780 We don't know what to do about it. 145 00:06:18.780 --> 00:06:21.570 How do we, step by step, start to identify it, 146 00:06:21.570 --> 00:06:23.170 figure out what it is and come together 147 00:06:23.170 --> 00:06:24.490 to help solve the problem? 148 00:06:24.490 --> 00:06:27.520 I love what the writers have done with the DMA, 149 00:06:27.520 --> 00:06:29.650 and I love the symbolism there, 150 00:06:29.650 --> 00:06:34.300 and I love that, the art imitating life of it. 151 00:06:34.300 --> 00:06:35.560 We've gotta figure it out. 152 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:37.061 Yet again, we have to come together 153 00:06:37.061 --> 00:06:42.010 and I do love how you see everyone 154 00:06:42.010 --> 00:06:45.230 on this ship rising to the occasion. 155 00:06:45.230 --> 00:06:48.460 A big part of this show is the discovery 156 00:06:48.460 --> 00:06:52.610 of who we are and we are to each other, 157 00:06:52.610 --> 00:06:54.340 and what our roles really are, 158 00:06:54.340 --> 00:06:56.950 and you see that with this DMA. 159 00:06:56.950 --> 00:06:58.430 You see everyone rising. 160 00:06:58.430 --> 00:07:01.900 You see everyone cementing more and more 161 00:07:01.900 --> 00:07:03.760 into who they're destined to be 162 00:07:03.760 --> 00:07:05.540 because of the hardship of it all, you know, 163 00:07:05.540 --> 00:07:08.340 and because of the unity it necessitates. 164 00:07:08.340 --> 00:07:09.720 We are going to make damn sure 165 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:13.887 nothing like this happens again, not on our watch. 166 00:07:16.530 --> 00:07:18.341 Not on our watch. 167 00:07:25.940 --> 00:07:29.360 I am now sitting with two exceptional young actors, 168 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:31.820 Blu del Barrio and Ian Alexander. 169 00:07:31.820 --> 00:07:33.540 They're here to talk about their characters, 170 00:07:33.540 --> 00:07:36.610 Adira and Gray from Star Trek: Discovery. 171 00:07:36.610 --> 00:07:39.470 Thank you both so much for joining me 172 00:07:39.470 --> 00:07:40.810 here in "The Ready Room." 173 00:07:40.810 --> 00:07:42.900 It is so awesome to see both of you. 174 00:07:42.900 --> 00:07:46.994 - It's so nice to see us. - Thanks for having us. 175 00:07:46.994 --> 00:07:50.070 The last time I saw you, we were at Star Trek Day. 176 00:07:50.070 --> 00:07:53.070 That was also the first time we had been in person together. 177 00:07:54.448 --> 00:07:56.150 Is it as cool for you as it is for me 178 00:07:56.150 --> 00:07:58.200 that we're in the same place again? 179 00:07:58.200 --> 00:07:59.033 Definitely. 180 00:07:59.033 --> 00:08:00.259 - [Wil] It's pretty great, right? 181 00:08:00.259 --> 00:08:01.092 - Yeah, in the flesh. 182 00:08:01.092 --> 00:08:03.890 I know, and I love so much 183 00:08:03.890 --> 00:08:05.488 that you're wearing the pin I gave you. 184 00:08:05.488 --> 00:08:07.460 I had to. 185 00:08:07.460 --> 00:08:09.300 It just means so much to me. 186 00:08:09.300 --> 00:08:10.528 I just think it's awesome. 187 00:08:10.528 --> 00:08:11.539 I was so excited this morning. 188 00:08:11.539 --> 00:08:12.938 I was, like, where's the pin? 189 00:08:12.938 --> 00:08:15.068 - [Wil] Oh, that is great. That is super cool. 190 00:08:15.068 --> 00:08:16.476 - Still so excited. 191 00:08:16.476 --> 00:08:18.780 Let's get to it, and I'm gonna start with you, Ian. 192 00:08:18.780 --> 00:08:22.960 This season is huge for Gray. 193 00:08:22.960 --> 00:08:25.090 Picking up from Season 3, he is now 194 00:08:25.090 --> 00:08:27.600 in a corporeal body. 195 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:30.210 Other people can see him. This is very exciting. 196 00:08:30.210 --> 00:08:32.780 Michelle Paradise has talked about 197 00:08:32.780 --> 00:08:35.050 how Gray's arc is, in some ways, 198 00:08:35.050 --> 00:08:37.437 a metaphor for the trans experience. 199 00:08:37.437 --> 00:08:39.740 Would you talk about that a little bit, 200 00:08:39.740 --> 00:08:42.510 and about what Gray's story means to you? 201 00:08:42.510 --> 00:08:44.180 Yeah, of course. 202 00:08:44.180 --> 00:08:46.600 I think that Gray's physical transition 203 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:48.017 into a new body is very much like 204 00:08:48.017 --> 00:08:51.390 my own physical transition in my gender identity. 205 00:08:51.390 --> 00:08:54.840 So, Adira is kind of the only person 206 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:57.080 that understands and sees him at first, 207 00:08:57.080 --> 00:08:58.540 and it can feel that way when you're, like, 208 00:08:58.540 --> 00:09:01.610 first coming out to a loved one as trans, 209 00:09:01.610 --> 00:09:03.890 and then slowly, the more you become 210 00:09:03.890 --> 00:09:06.000 comfortable with your body, the more you feel okay 211 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:08.280 talking to other people about your gender. 212 00:09:08.280 --> 00:09:11.017 So, I think that's a really direct metaphor for Gray 213 00:09:11.017 --> 00:09:13.640 in the physical, like, literal sense. 214 00:09:13.640 --> 00:09:14.473 - [Wil] Yeah. 215 00:09:14.473 --> 00:09:16.170 And I'm really excited for everyone 216 00:09:16.170 --> 00:09:17.850 to be able to see him, 217 00:09:17.850 --> 00:09:18.930 - Yeah. 218 00:09:18.930 --> 00:09:19.870 - for who he really is. 219 00:09:19.870 --> 00:09:22.530 There's--I'm a cis het white guy, 220 00:09:22.530 --> 00:09:25.810 so I'm just presuming, but I feel like 221 00:09:25.810 --> 00:09:28.448 you are providing representation 222 00:09:28.448 --> 00:09:32.565 for a lot of people 223 00:09:32.565 --> 00:09:36.040 who have never been represented at all. 224 00:09:37.478 --> 00:09:39.230 Do you think about that at all? 225 00:09:39.230 --> 00:09:41.430 I really do, especially when I get messages 226 00:09:41.430 --> 00:09:43.610 from, like, young teens or, like, young people 227 00:09:43.610 --> 00:09:45.560 who are, you know, coming to terms 228 00:09:45.560 --> 00:09:47.080 with their identity as being trans, 229 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:49.659 and they say, like, hey, like seeing you as Gray 230 00:09:49.659 --> 00:09:51.650 on my television screen helped me 231 00:09:51.650 --> 00:09:53.550 come out to my family or it helped me, like, 232 00:09:53.550 --> 00:09:55.120 you know, have a conversation 233 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:56.877 with my mom about my gender, like, things like that. 234 00:09:56.877 --> 00:09:59.580 It was really touching 'cause I know how important 235 00:09:59.580 --> 00:10:01.410 that was for me as a young teenager 236 00:10:01.410 --> 00:10:03.870 to see people that looked like me on screen, 237 00:10:03.870 --> 00:10:05.600 and I didn't--when I was 14, 238 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:07.870 like I didn't really have other trans people 239 00:10:07.870 --> 00:10:09.420 that were visible on TV shows. 240 00:10:09.420 --> 00:10:11.319 It was more of just, like, social media. 241 00:10:11.319 --> 00:10:12.152 - Uh-huh. 242 00:10:12.152 --> 00:10:14.250 So, it makes me really happy that, you know, 243 00:10:14.250 --> 00:10:16.510 families can come together and watch Discovery 244 00:10:16.510 --> 00:10:20.550 and see two trans people on the screen. 245 00:10:20.550 --> 00:10:23.970 Fans have pointed out, especially 246 00:10:23.970 --> 00:10:28.410 in the LGBTQ community, that the stories 247 00:10:28.410 --> 00:10:30.780 that are being told about Adira and Gray 248 00:10:30.780 --> 00:10:33.400 really center trans characters 249 00:10:33.400 --> 00:10:38.400 without it being like a coming-out narrative 250 00:10:38.990 --> 00:10:42.690 or a struggling to find acceptance 251 00:10:42.690 --> 00:10:45.530 or a struggling to come to an acceptance of their identity 252 00:10:45.530 --> 00:10:46.640 kind of situation. 253 00:10:46.640 --> 00:10:48.919 They're just people who are existing 254 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:51.590 in the future together. 255 00:10:51.590 --> 00:10:55.730 Do I have that right, and if I do, 256 00:10:55.730 --> 00:10:57.503 how does that resonate with you? 257 00:10:58.530 --> 00:11:01.960 Yeah, I would say that's, that feels really spot on. 258 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.400 I think we get, well, I think we get to do that 259 00:11:05.400 --> 00:11:08.160 because it is Star Trek, 260 00:11:08.160 --> 00:11:11.940 and because we get to be like, in a universe 261 00:11:11.940 --> 00:11:15.970 kind of of our own creation, like the stuff that's not, 262 00:11:15.970 --> 00:11:18.490 you know, most of the stuff that you see 263 00:11:18.490 --> 00:11:20.710 about the trans experience on TV 264 00:11:20.710 --> 00:11:22.590 or in movies, especially in older TV and movies 265 00:11:22.590 --> 00:11:26.020 is like trauma, hardship with family, death, 266 00:11:26.020 --> 00:11:27.950 all surrounding that, but because we're in this, 267 00:11:27.950 --> 00:11:30.830 kind of like fantastical universe, 268 00:11:30.830 --> 00:11:33.600 even rather than seeing someone, you know, 269 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:35.300 just transition, like 270 00:11:35.300 --> 00:11:36.550 you normally would in real life, 271 00:11:36.550 --> 00:11:39.960 this picture of you going 272 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:42.480 and picking your own body, 273 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:45.110 like the body that you're gonna have 274 00:11:45.110 --> 00:11:48.150 is so--it's it, but it's different in a way 275 00:11:48.150 --> 00:11:50.300 that is so beautiful. 276 00:11:50.300 --> 00:11:52.590 The thing that you do, like, picking out, 277 00:11:52.590 --> 00:11:54.920 like, the mole that you want to take off 278 00:11:54.920 --> 00:11:58.360 is my absolute favorite part of this whole episode 279 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:02.250 'cause it's so, like, it's just--it's perfect. 280 00:12:02.250 --> 00:12:04.680 Like, it hurts my heart 'cause it's like, 281 00:12:04.680 --> 00:12:06.700 yeah, no, I just like, this is my thing. 282 00:12:06.700 --> 00:12:08.950 I wanna do it, how I wanna feel. 283 00:12:08.950 --> 00:12:11.280 Gray has agency over his body, and I think... 284 00:12:11.280 --> 00:12:12.113 - He does. 285 00:12:12.113 --> 00:12:13.220 - A lot of trans people feel like 286 00:12:13.220 --> 00:12:14.810 our agency is taken away from us. 287 00:12:14.810 --> 00:12:16.740 So, that's what I love about this episode 288 00:12:16.740 --> 00:12:19.040 and about our narratives in Star Trek 289 00:12:19.040 --> 00:12:21.350 is that we have agency over who we are 290 00:12:21.350 --> 00:12:23.570 and, like, who we get to interact with. 291 00:12:23.570 --> 00:12:25.003 Let's talk about Adira. 292 00:12:25.909 --> 00:12:28.360 They were so standoffish in Season 3, 293 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.960 and it felt really appropriate to me, right. 294 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:35.010 It felt like, "I don't know you!" Right? Like, right, 295 00:12:35.010 --> 00:12:38.070 and I think that was, like that was super appropriate, 296 00:12:38.070 --> 00:12:40.310 but they are really breaking out of their shell. 297 00:12:40.310 --> 00:12:43.027 This season, they go on their very first away mission. 298 00:12:43.027 --> 00:12:43.860 Yeah. 299 00:12:43.860 --> 00:12:46.760 I remember when Wesley went on his first away mission, 300 00:12:46.760 --> 00:12:49.590 how unbelievably excited I was to be like, 301 00:12:49.590 --> 00:12:51.570 "Really? I get to, like, ride on a transporter 302 00:12:51.570 --> 00:12:53.920 and I get to leave the ship and I get to get, like--" 303 00:12:53.920 --> 00:12:55.450 did you do all that stuff? 304 00:12:55.450 --> 00:12:56.810 Did you go through all of that? 305 00:12:56.810 --> 00:12:59.900 Like, I'm on the away team, like, it's cool, right? 306 00:12:59.900 --> 00:13:01.830 It felt, yeah, it was really nice, 307 00:13:01.830 --> 00:13:04.880 I think especially 'cause I was doing it with Mary. 308 00:13:04.880 --> 00:13:08.900 It was like, especially-- 309 00:13:08.900 --> 00:13:11.470 not not as serious, but Mary, like, 310 00:13:11.470 --> 00:13:13.950 would really, like, take the piss out of it with me, like... 311 00:13:13.950 --> 00:13:14.783 - Sure. 312 00:13:14.783 --> 00:13:17.560 - It was just, it made it very, like, seamless 313 00:13:17.560 --> 00:13:20.869 and feel smooth kind of until I was like, oh, 314 00:13:20.869 --> 00:13:23.730 we're like away away, like until we were actually on-set. 315 00:13:23.730 --> 00:13:25.550 Until, I was like, oh, this is very different. 316 00:13:25.550 --> 00:13:26.383 - Yeah. 317 00:13:27.358 --> 00:13:28.758 Yeah, doing it with Mary made it, like, 318 00:13:28.758 --> 00:13:30.790 a million times more fun. 319 00:13:30.790 --> 00:13:32.170 I feel like it would be impossible 320 00:13:32.170 --> 00:13:33.620 to be on an away mission with Mary 321 00:13:33.620 --> 00:13:37.756 and not just have nothing but fun. 322 00:13:37.756 --> 00:13:38.940 It's really nice. 323 00:13:38.940 --> 00:13:40.120 Yeah, it would be like me being 324 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:41.340 on an away mission with Frakes. 325 00:13:41.340 --> 00:13:43.280 Like, it's just like, do we ever have to 326 00:13:43.280 --> 00:13:44.810 go back to the ship? 327 00:13:44.810 --> 00:13:45.643 Yeah, if I ever took a moment to be like, 328 00:13:45.643 --> 00:13:47.600 "This is so special, I'm on an away mission," 329 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:48.820 Mary would be like [raspberry blowing]. 330 00:13:48.820 --> 00:13:50.770 Like, I fully like, I would not have 331 00:13:50.770 --> 00:13:52.470 been able to take it seriously. 332 00:13:52.470 --> 00:13:55.289 Like, she wouldn't have let me, but I love that. 333 00:13:55.289 --> 00:13:57.880 I wanna talk about the two of y'all 334 00:13:57.880 --> 00:14:00.660 being able to have scenes together now 335 00:14:00.660 --> 00:14:04.010 that are going to involve more interaction 336 00:14:04.010 --> 00:14:07.493 and involve other crew members and things like that. 337 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:10.200 What does it mean, this is an 338 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:11.230 open-ended question to both of you. 339 00:14:11.230 --> 00:14:12.490 I don't know, either of you can answer first. 340 00:14:12.490 --> 00:14:16.200 What does it mean to you now that Gray and Adira 341 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:21.120 are together and they can be, like, a real couple? 342 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:23.440 Like, they can have that fulfillment 343 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:25.070 that maybe wasn't there before 344 00:14:25.070 --> 00:14:28.343 Gray was incorporated into his body. 345 00:14:30.800 --> 00:14:32.730 What are your thoughts on that? 346 00:14:32.730 --> 00:14:34.510 I think it brings, like, a new level 347 00:14:34.510 --> 00:14:37.520 of vulnerability to Gray and Adira's relationship 348 00:14:37.520 --> 00:14:38.833 'cause they're already, like, so intimate, 349 00:14:38.833 --> 00:14:41.420 like being a part of each other essentially. 350 00:14:41.420 --> 00:14:42.460 - Yeah, yeah. 351 00:14:42.460 --> 00:14:44.700 But then, like, being physically present, 352 00:14:44.700 --> 00:14:47.187 it's like, now everyone else can see me, 353 00:14:47.187 --> 00:14:48.950 and that brings kinda like this new level. 354 00:14:48.950 --> 00:14:51.964 It's like we're leveling up our relationship. 355 00:14:53.370 --> 00:14:54.203 Yeah. 356 00:14:54.203 --> 00:14:57.320 How do you think it affected, like, 357 00:14:57.320 --> 00:15:00.850 Adira's feelings of anxiety, maybe about Gray? 358 00:15:00.850 --> 00:15:03.440 Yeah, it didn't, like, 359 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:06.110 start to hit me as much until we started filming it, 360 00:15:06.110 --> 00:15:07.800 until we started, like, getting to the point 361 00:15:07.800 --> 00:15:11.230 where like, okay, you are, you have fully incorporated. 362 00:15:11.230 --> 00:15:13.150 You are, okay, no, people are looking at you. 363 00:15:13.150 --> 00:15:14.060 They can see you and you can 364 00:15:14.060 --> 00:15:16.600 interact with them without me 365 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:19.180 was suddenly like, oh no, they're terrified. 366 00:15:19.180 --> 00:15:21.340 No, that's terrifying, that's so terrifying. 367 00:15:21.340 --> 00:15:24.270 They're immediately, their worst fear 368 00:15:24.270 --> 00:15:25.470 is now they're gonna lose Gray 369 00:15:25.470 --> 00:15:26.920 because Gray is able to leave. 370 00:15:26.920 --> 00:15:29.657 Like, that hit me when we started filming it. 371 00:15:29.657 --> 00:15:31.305 - Oh, I never would have thought that, 372 00:15:31.305 --> 00:15:32.138 oh, that's so interesting. 373 00:15:32.138 --> 00:15:34.250 - It was, and I don't know if it's, like, 374 00:15:34.250 --> 00:15:38.407 a mixture of, like, sort of something like selfish 375 00:15:38.407 --> 00:15:40.800 to wanna keep Gray to themselves, 376 00:15:40.800 --> 00:15:43.590 but also, like, comfort in that 377 00:15:43.590 --> 00:15:45.250 we've been like this for a year, 378 00:15:45.250 --> 00:15:49.180 this kind of only being able to see you, 379 00:15:49.180 --> 00:15:54.180 and you only being able to exist, like, in my mind's eye. 380 00:15:54.700 --> 00:15:56.970 It has been a whole year of existence which, 381 00:15:56.970 --> 00:15:58.170 you know, they're still young. 382 00:15:58.170 --> 00:16:01.343 So, to suddenly be like, oh no, that's up in the air now. 383 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:03.800 It's fully your decision now... 384 00:16:03.800 --> 00:16:04.633 - Yeah. 385 00:16:04.633 --> 00:16:05.810 - was scary, yeah. 386 00:16:05.810 --> 00:16:07.560 - If Gray dies, he dies. 387 00:16:07.560 --> 00:16:09.300 - He dies-dies, yeah. 388 00:16:09.300 --> 00:16:10.133 - Yeah. 389 00:16:10.133 --> 00:16:13.145 Wow, well thanks for putting that into my head. 390 00:16:13.145 --> 00:16:15.500 I really appreciate it. 391 00:16:15.500 --> 00:16:17.040 - Well, hopefully that won't happen. 392 00:16:17.040 --> 00:16:20.280 - That's some existential weight I really needed 393 00:16:20.280 --> 00:16:22.620 to carry around for the entirety of this season. 394 00:16:22.620 --> 00:16:24.343 I deeply appreciate it. 395 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:28.530 But, on a positive note, like, 396 00:16:28.530 --> 00:16:30.510 they can, like, hug and, like... 397 00:16:30.510 --> 00:16:31.343 - Yeah! 398 00:16:31.343 --> 00:16:33.070 - Be, like, physically intimate and, like, 399 00:16:33.070 --> 00:16:36.200 have that actually be perceived by other people. 400 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:37.040 So like, I know... 401 00:16:37.040 --> 00:16:38.975 - You might die, but we can hug. 402 00:16:38.975 --> 00:16:39.832 - Yeah. 403 00:16:39.832 --> 00:16:41.970 - So, it's good. - You win some, you lose some. 404 00:16:41.970 --> 00:16:43.650 - Everything has its risks, right? 405 00:16:43.650 --> 00:16:44.483 - Yeah. 406 00:16:45.340 --> 00:16:47.460 You have finished Season 4. 407 00:16:47.460 --> 00:16:50.120 I can't believe y'all are done with Season 4. 408 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:53.280 Did it--for me, a season always felt like, 409 00:16:53.280 --> 00:16:56.230 wow, that was 10 years and it was also five minutes. 410 00:16:56.230 --> 00:16:58.930 Did, did you have a similar kind of experience? 411 00:16:58.930 --> 00:17:01.220 At least, I don't know if you feel the same, 412 00:17:01.220 --> 00:17:02.960 but this one felt definitely like 10 years, 413 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:04.240 maybe not five minutes. 414 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:05.073 - Okay. 415 00:17:05.073 --> 00:17:05.906 - This one felt, I think because of the COVID. 416 00:17:05.906 --> 00:17:08.370 - Because of COVID, it definitely felt a lot longer. 417 00:17:08.370 --> 00:17:09.867 - It was long, yeah, but... 418 00:17:09.867 --> 00:17:12.940 - I feel like I aged, like, five years. 419 00:17:12.940 --> 00:17:14.907 - Yeah, I think just 'cause, like, 420 00:17:14.907 --> 00:17:17.270 and like, especially us and Wilson are like 421 00:17:17.270 --> 00:17:19.200 isolated where we were living. 422 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:22.620 So, it just felt like a super long stretch. 423 00:17:22.620 --> 00:17:24.940 There was just a lot of time just spent, like, 424 00:17:24.940 --> 00:17:27.144 in my hotel room alone, trying to, 425 00:17:27.144 --> 00:17:29.963 I don't know, watch new shows or, like, 426 00:17:29.963 --> 00:17:32.520 making a lotta TikToks, like, 427 00:17:32.520 --> 00:17:34.420 keeping myself busy somehow. 428 00:17:34.420 --> 00:17:38.690 So, your season is over. You know. 429 00:17:38.690 --> 00:17:40.250 Nobody else does, but you know 430 00:17:40.250 --> 00:17:42.253 what the arc is and all that stuff. 431 00:17:43.930 --> 00:17:45.670 Let's stay away from spoilers, 432 00:17:45.670 --> 00:17:48.600 but do you have a favorite moment from the season 433 00:17:48.600 --> 00:17:50.960 that either of you would like to talk about 434 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:55.483 as obliquely or specifically as necessary? 435 00:17:56.425 --> 00:17:57.670 Oh no. 436 00:17:57.670 --> 00:17:59.923 I, okay, I'm going to be really vague with this. 437 00:17:59.923 --> 00:18:02.420 I really love, like, the chosen family dynamic 438 00:18:02.420 --> 00:18:05.660 between Adira and Gray and Culber and Stamets. 439 00:18:05.660 --> 00:18:07.710 Like, there's just so many beautiful moments 440 00:18:07.710 --> 00:18:09.560 between that little chosen family unit. 441 00:18:09.560 --> 00:18:10.730 I'm so happy to hear you say that 442 00:18:10.730 --> 00:18:13.400 because it is one of my absolute favorite dynamics, 443 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:15.280 and one of my favorite parts of Discovery. 444 00:18:15.280 --> 00:18:18.060 Like, like, super hard core, yeah, 445 00:18:18.060 --> 00:18:19.540 I'm really happy to hear that and I know 446 00:18:19.540 --> 00:18:22.070 I speak for a lot of people in the audience when I say that. 447 00:18:22.070 --> 00:18:23.584 What do you think, Blu? 448 00:18:23.584 --> 00:18:26.800 I have, like, a specific moment, 449 00:18:26.800 --> 00:18:29.230 but I don't wanna--can I be super vague about it 450 00:18:29.230 --> 00:18:30.570 so that if people see it later, like, 451 00:18:30.570 --> 00:18:32.270 oh, I think that's what it was? 452 00:18:32.270 --> 00:18:35.590 Be as vague as you want. Be as specific as you want. 453 00:18:35.590 --> 00:18:37.670 We will censor things as necessary. 454 00:18:37.670 --> 00:18:40.803 This is your moment. You take this. 455 00:18:40.803 --> 00:18:42.750 I don't wanna put a lot of pressure on you, 456 00:18:42.750 --> 00:18:46.024 but like, the eyes of the world are upon you right now... 457 00:18:46.024 --> 00:18:46.857 - Good. 458 00:18:46.857 --> 00:18:48.115 - and it is entirely your call. 459 00:18:48.115 --> 00:18:51.610 Okay, the, you'll know what I'm talking about. 460 00:18:51.610 --> 00:18:56.570 It was between us and it was, it was very short, 461 00:18:56.570 --> 00:18:59.500 and it's a very, like, we don't speak, 462 00:18:59.500 --> 00:19:03.093 and it's a very, like, artistic little thing that we did, 463 00:19:04.110 --> 00:19:06.010 when I was given something. 464 00:19:06.010 --> 00:19:06.843 - Oh yeah. 465 00:19:06.843 --> 00:19:07.676 - Okay. 466 00:19:07.676 --> 00:19:08.903 - Yeah. 467 00:19:09.820 --> 00:19:14.307 I wish you at home could have watched Ian's face... 468 00:19:16.090 --> 00:19:16.923 - When I realized... 469 00:19:16.923 --> 00:19:21.580 - as he put together what--that was beautiful. 470 00:19:22.510 --> 00:19:26.110 Watching you go, what was--I remember. 471 00:19:26.110 --> 00:19:27.640 Aw, I'm so glad I 472 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:28.595 - got to witness that. - I got to the last one, 473 00:19:28.595 --> 00:19:30.243 and I was like, they're not with me. 474 00:19:30.243 --> 00:19:32.470 - I watched it happen. That was so cool. 475 00:19:32.470 --> 00:19:33.350 - That's so sweet. 476 00:19:33.350 --> 00:19:35.843 That's my favorite. It's super short, and it's yeah, 477 00:19:35.843 --> 00:19:37.144 I really--I like it a lot. 478 00:19:37.144 --> 00:19:39.750 It just felt different than everything else. 479 00:19:39.750 --> 00:19:42.410 I wanna say one thing before we wrap up 480 00:19:43.810 --> 00:19:45.780 that might be a little awkward and weird, 481 00:19:45.780 --> 00:19:49.380 and I don't, I don't mean this to come off the wrong way. 482 00:19:49.380 --> 00:19:52.750 I have to keep reminding myself 483 00:19:52.750 --> 00:19:55.450 that I am so much older than the two of you 484 00:19:55.450 --> 00:19:58.800 because you are so incredibly wise 485 00:19:58.800 --> 00:20:02.910 and so graceful and just, like, 486 00:20:02.910 --> 00:20:06.330 the voice that you use and the way that you use it 487 00:20:06.330 --> 00:20:10.100 is just such a pleasure to witness 488 00:20:10.100 --> 00:20:14.910 and Star Trek is real lucky to have the two of you, 489 00:20:14.910 --> 00:20:17.520 and Star Trek is going to be saying that 490 00:20:17.520 --> 00:20:19.030 for a really long time. 491 00:20:19.030 --> 00:20:23.310 So, I'm really excited to see the rest of you on this season 492 00:20:23.310 --> 00:20:25.310 and everything that you do, 493 00:20:25.310 --> 00:20:28.470 and thank you so much for coming into "The Ready Room," 494 00:20:28.470 --> 00:20:30.260 and sharing physical space with me. 495 00:20:30.260 --> 00:20:31.370 - Yay! 496 00:20:31.370 --> 00:20:32.953 - Thank you, Wil. - Thank you. 497 00:20:32.953 --> 00:20:34.753 - It's such an honor. - This was so nice. 498 00:20:51.330 --> 00:20:54.160 So by now, I imagine most of you have figured out 499 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:56.560 your pal Wil Wheaton loves a good lapel pin. 500 00:20:56.560 --> 00:20:58.530 Like The Dude's rug, it really ties 501 00:20:58.530 --> 00:21:00.330 the whole outfit together, 502 00:21:00.330 --> 00:21:02.060 and you know who agrees with me? 503 00:21:02.060 --> 00:21:06.640 Mr. Saru. I love his elder pin so much. 504 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:09.737 It's like his own version of Worf's bandolier, 505 00:21:09.737 --> 00:21:11.910 Kira's earring or Kayshon's dagger, 506 00:21:11.910 --> 00:21:13.990 and now, we have actor Doug Jones 507 00:21:13.990 --> 00:21:16.400 and prop master Mario Moreira to tell us 508 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:19.110 all about Saru's new, striking bit of bling 509 00:21:19.110 --> 00:21:20.400 and how it was made. 510 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:21.800 Check this out. 511 00:21:21.800 --> 00:21:23.060 That's beautiful. 512 00:21:23.060 --> 00:21:26.445 It's the Kelpien symbol for community, isn't it? 513 00:21:26.445 --> 00:21:28.080 Community and service. 514 00:21:28.080 --> 00:21:31.480 It signifies my status as a councilor in my village. 515 00:21:38.800 --> 00:21:40.570 I actually do love the new uniforms 516 00:21:40.570 --> 00:21:41.403 that we have this year. 517 00:21:41.403 --> 00:21:44.750 With my special pin I have over here, 518 00:21:44.750 --> 00:21:46.890 that is my tether to home for sure, 519 00:21:46.890 --> 00:21:48.580 and I'm really glad that Starfleet let me 520 00:21:48.580 --> 00:21:51.490 wear that with my uniform in addition 521 00:21:51.490 --> 00:21:52.743 to my Starfleet badge. 522 00:21:53.592 --> 00:21:57.170 Saru's Kaminar Council pin is actually 523 00:21:57.170 --> 00:21:59.830 very reminiscent of Worf's bandolier. 524 00:21:59.830 --> 00:22:03.260 We actually discussed that when we started designing it, 525 00:22:03.260 --> 00:22:06.350 is whether we could actually wear other items 526 00:22:06.350 --> 00:22:09.420 from other cultures while wearing the Starfleet uniform, 527 00:22:09.420 --> 00:22:12.420 and the Klingon piece that Worf wears was discussed, 528 00:22:12.420 --> 00:22:15.630 so--as an antecedent to what we could do here. 529 00:22:15.630 --> 00:22:18.280 You'll find Saru, oftentimes, like, with his arms folded, 530 00:22:18.280 --> 00:22:20.460 kind of giving it a little bit of a stroke 531 00:22:20.460 --> 00:22:25.460 because he is so fond of his home and he longs for it. 532 00:22:25.460 --> 00:22:26.410 Lieutenant. 533 00:22:26.410 --> 00:22:28.690 And the pin itself is a gorgeous brooch 534 00:22:28.690 --> 00:22:30.890 that really resembles kind of the, 535 00:22:30.890 --> 00:22:33.170 I would say the art direction, the production design 536 00:22:33.170 --> 00:22:34.610 of the home planet, Kaminar. 537 00:22:34.610 --> 00:22:36.171 It's got that very organic sort of 538 00:22:36.171 --> 00:22:41.171 rooty, viny, kelpy, you know, sea vegetation thing 539 00:22:41.243 --> 00:22:44.010 with a nice, you know, gemstone in it. 540 00:22:44.010 --> 00:22:46.340 At this point in their history, 541 00:22:46.340 --> 00:22:49.270 the Ba'ul culture and the Kelpien culture 542 00:22:49.270 --> 00:22:52.310 have immersed and have started to work together. 543 00:22:52.310 --> 00:22:55.570 So, that was part of the design language 544 00:22:55.570 --> 00:22:57.040 for the council pin. 545 00:22:57.040 --> 00:23:00.870 There's the Ba'ul monolith intermingled 546 00:23:00.870 --> 00:23:02.780 with the Kelpien sun and then, 547 00:23:02.780 --> 00:23:06.300 sorta these cool flary arms were reminiscent 548 00:23:06.300 --> 00:23:07.910 of the way the Kelpiens move 549 00:23:07.910 --> 00:23:11.710 and their sort of water, fluid language. 550 00:23:11.710 --> 00:23:13.510 It's just a lovely reminder that 551 00:23:13.510 --> 00:23:15.100 he's got a dual life now. 552 00:23:15.100 --> 00:23:17.250 He's very beholden to Starfleet 553 00:23:17.250 --> 00:23:19.890 and his sense of duty there has never faded, 554 00:23:19.890 --> 00:23:23.780 but his sense of home and nostalgia and family 555 00:23:23.780 --> 00:23:26.040 and all that tethers him to home 556 00:23:26.040 --> 00:23:28.110 is still very, very present as well. 557 00:23:28.110 --> 00:23:32.830 One cannot have all the lives one desires. 558 00:23:32.830 --> 00:23:36.102 A choice is always necessary. 559 00:24:05.250 --> 00:24:09.820 My mind to your mind, my thoughts to your thoughts, 560 00:24:09.820 --> 00:24:11.900 yes, we are thinking the same thing. 561 00:24:11.900 --> 00:24:13.160 It's time for an exclusive clip 562 00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:15.140 from next week's episode of Discovery. 563 00:24:15.140 --> 00:24:15.973 Let's watch. 564 00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:19.521 Lieutenant Tilly, Ensign Tal. 565 00:24:19.521 --> 00:24:22.180 Welcome back to Starfleet Academy. 566 00:24:22.180 --> 00:24:23.920 Thank you, sir, it's an absolute honor. 567 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:26.150 I honestly never thought I'd be asked 568 00:24:26.150 --> 00:24:27.440 to do anything like this. 569 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:30.580 I was the kid in class who was asked to stop talking, 570 00:24:30.580 --> 00:24:32.790 front row, hand up, that's me. 571 00:24:32.790 --> 00:24:36.360 Ensign Tal, you'll be on Shuttlecraft 11. 572 00:24:36.360 --> 00:24:38.980 The other cadets are waiting there. 573 00:24:38.980 --> 00:24:40.630 Why don't you introduce yourself? 574 00:24:41.850 --> 00:24:43.770 Yes, sir. Sounds good. 575 00:24:45.190 --> 00:24:47.480 Thank you for letting me bring Adira along. 576 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:49.820 Dr. Culber thought it could be beneficial. 577 00:24:49.820 --> 00:24:50.900 They could use a little work in 578 00:24:50.900 --> 00:24:52.870 the team-building department. 579 00:24:52.870 --> 00:24:54.150 It's a problem we're seeing 580 00:24:54.150 --> 00:24:56.033 with all of our Starfleet cadets. 581 00:24:57.328 --> 00:24:59.300 That's why I'm consulting. 582 00:24:59.300 --> 00:25:01.770 They may be the best their worlds have to offer, 583 00:25:01.770 --> 00:25:05.150 but they grew up isolated and disconnected. 584 00:25:05.150 --> 00:25:07.690 Many of them find it hard to function as a team 585 00:25:07.690 --> 00:25:11.130 with individuals they don't already know, 586 00:25:11.130 --> 00:25:13.830 especially those of species they've never encountered. 587 00:25:14.840 --> 00:25:16.500 But, with the DMA, 588 00:25:16.500 --> 00:25:18.800 Starfleet needs personnel now more than ever, 589 00:25:18.800 --> 00:25:20.760 but if people can't even work together... 590 00:25:20.760 --> 00:25:22.160 - Precisely. 591 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:25.070 One might say that today's exercise is 592 00:25:25.070 --> 00:25:26.933 about the very future of Starfleet. 593 00:25:28.800 --> 00:25:30.570 Thank you all so much for joining me 594 00:25:30.570 --> 00:25:31.980 here in "The Ready Room" today. 595 00:25:31.980 --> 00:25:33.290 Next week, I will be joined by 596 00:25:33.290 --> 00:25:36.370 the one and only Sylvia Tilly herself, Mary Wiseman, 597 00:25:36.370 --> 00:25:38.550 to talk about Season 4, Episode 4 598 00:25:38.550 --> 00:25:40.080 of Star Trek: Discovery, 599 00:25:40.080 --> 00:25:43.010 and you will not wanna miss this one. 600 00:25:43.010 --> 00:25:45.160 Until then, I'm Wil Wheaton. 601 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:47.400 Live long, and prosper.