WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.120 This week, Star Trek: Discovery's Mary Wiseman 2 00:00:02.120 --> 00:00:03.410 opens a channel to talk to us about 3 00:00:03.410 --> 00:00:04.920 that game-changing Tilly news. 4 00:00:04.920 --> 00:00:06.070 We get a behind-the-scenes look 5 00:00:06.070 --> 00:00:07.550 at the latest Discovery episode, 6 00:00:07.550 --> 00:00:10.450 plus we have a brand new clip on our radar, 7 00:00:10.450 --> 00:00:11.400 just for you. 8 00:00:11.400 --> 00:00:12.800 Report to The Ready Room, y'all, 9 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:15.000 'cause it is all happening right now. 10 00:00:22.030 --> 00:00:25.020 Hey, nerds, I'm Wil Wheaton and this is The Ready Room, 11 00:00:25.020 --> 00:00:26.770 your official behind-the-scenes hub 12 00:00:26.770 --> 00:00:28.650 for all things Star Trek Universe. 13 00:00:28.650 --> 00:00:31.690 Wow, what a week for us Sylvia Tilly fans! 14 00:00:31.690 --> 00:00:34.400 This latest episode of Star Trek: Discovery, 15 00:00:34.400 --> 00:00:37.360 let's just say it has more than earned its title 16 00:00:37.360 --> 00:00:39.280 of, "All Is Possible." 17 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:40.790 And before I go any further, 18 00:00:40.790 --> 00:00:43.255 now is probably a good time for a red alert! 19 00:00:43.255 --> 00:00:44.088 [alarms blaring] 20 00:00:44.088 --> 00:00:46.410 Because we are about to survey all of the spoilers 21 00:00:46.410 --> 00:00:47.243 in this episode. 22 00:00:47.243 --> 00:00:48.410 So if you haven't watched 23 00:00:48.410 --> 00:00:50.480 Season 4, Episode 4 of Disco, 24 00:00:50.480 --> 00:00:52.000 now's the time to catch up, 25 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:53.540 then meet us back here in The Ready Room 26 00:00:53.540 --> 00:00:55.052 for the full debrief. 27 00:00:55.052 --> 00:00:56.640 And when you do, 28 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:58.510 wow, we have the first and last guest 29 00:00:58.510 --> 00:01:00.090 you will ever need for this episode. 30 00:01:00.090 --> 00:01:03.170 I'm of course talking about Discovery's own Mary Wiseman, 31 00:01:03.170 --> 00:01:04.840 who will be hailing us to discuss 32 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:07.210 that incredible Tilly storyline. 33 00:01:07.210 --> 00:01:08.890 Then brace for impact, 34 00:01:08.890 --> 00:01:10.570 because a little later on we'll be showing you 35 00:01:10.570 --> 00:01:13.660 a never before seen clip from next week's episode 36 00:01:13.660 --> 00:01:15.250 of Star Trek: Discovery. 37 00:01:15.250 --> 00:01:17.490 But before we get to any of that, 38 00:01:17.490 --> 00:01:19.220 you know what's coming next. 39 00:01:19.220 --> 00:01:22.000 We have an all new video package for you, 40 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:23.140 ready to roll. 41 00:01:23.140 --> 00:01:24.890 Control room, engage. 42 00:01:25.737 --> 00:01:27.240 I am Saru. 43 00:01:27.240 --> 00:01:28.073 This is Tilly. 44 00:01:28.073 --> 00:01:29.481 My name lacks authority. 45 00:01:29.481 --> 00:01:30.415 - What? - What? 46 00:01:31.980 --> 00:01:33.200 Hello, this is Captain Tilly. 47 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:35.470 What the heck, heck, hell? Hold your horses! 48 00:01:35.470 --> 00:01:37.790 Computer green juice, extra green. 49 00:01:37.790 --> 00:01:38.623 This is so neat. 50 00:01:38.623 --> 00:01:40.760 A roommate is like an automatic built-in friend. 51 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:42.230 That's hardly the correct ratio. 52 00:01:42.230 --> 00:01:44.500 Three egg-white breakfast burrito with black beans. 53 00:01:44.500 --> 00:01:45.760 Oh, that old trick! 54 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:47.250 Are you freaking kidding me? 55 00:01:47.250 --> 00:01:48.420 Computer, add salsa. 56 00:01:48.420 --> 00:01:50.660 I used to exclusively go for soldiers, 57 00:01:50.660 --> 00:01:53.068 but I'm kind of going through like a musician phase 58 00:01:53.068 --> 00:01:53.901 right now. 59 00:01:53.901 --> 00:01:56.650 New world, new things. Like, hey, what's that? 60 00:01:56.650 --> 00:01:58.363 Is that a new life for form? 61 00:02:00.520 --> 00:02:02.880 I'm not a fugitive, I've never been a fugitive before. 62 00:02:02.880 --> 00:02:04.110 Except, well, when I was 16, 63 00:02:04.110 --> 00:02:06.335 I went through kind of a rebellious phase. 64 00:02:06.335 --> 00:02:07.560 Sorry, sweetheart. 65 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.468 You have some, uh, Leland on your shoes. 66 00:02:14.710 --> 00:02:16.460 Maybe they died trying to save you. 67 00:02:16.460 --> 00:02:17.643 Hey, thanks for that. 68 00:02:17.643 --> 00:02:18.913 You have really beautiful nail beds. 69 00:02:18.913 --> 00:02:19.746 Thank you. 70 00:02:19.746 --> 00:02:20.829 You're welcome. 71 00:02:24.833 --> 00:02:28.630 My next guest plays one of my favorite characters 72 00:02:28.630 --> 00:02:30.320 in all of Star Trek: Discovery, 73 00:02:30.320 --> 00:02:33.110 and I am so thrilled to be talking to her now, 74 00:02:33.110 --> 00:02:37.040 especially after this week's slightly consequential episode. 75 00:02:37.040 --> 00:02:39.950 Please join me in welcoming Sylvia Tilly herself, 76 00:02:39.950 --> 00:02:40.850 Mary Wiseman. 77 00:02:40.850 --> 00:02:42.780 Hi, Mary! 78 00:02:42.780 --> 00:02:44.650 Hello, hi. 79 00:02:44.650 --> 00:02:45.960 Hi, it's so cool to see you. 80 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:47.210 Thanks for being here. 81 00:02:47.210 --> 00:02:48.043 Oh, my pleasure. 82 00:02:48.043 --> 00:02:49.260 Really good to see you again, Wil. 83 00:02:49.260 --> 00:02:53.370 This episode was kind of a lot, 84 00:02:53.370 --> 00:02:57.710 and we have a ton to talk about, so let's get right into it. 85 00:02:57.710 --> 00:03:02.580 The jump to the future has been so challenging 86 00:03:02.580 --> 00:03:06.670 for the Disco crew in so many different ways, 87 00:03:06.670 --> 00:03:11.120 and it has set Tilly on this path toward figuring out 88 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:14.200 what she really wants out of her life. 89 00:03:14.200 --> 00:03:16.510 I would love for you to talk a bit 90 00:03:16.510 --> 00:03:18.610 about Tilly's journey this season, 91 00:03:18.610 --> 00:03:21.306 and how she arrived at this point. 92 00:03:21.306 --> 00:03:22.543 That's a great question. 93 00:03:22.543 --> 00:03:26.890 I think Tilly comes so hot off of her experience, 94 00:03:26.890 --> 00:03:30.522 having to step into the position of Captain, 95 00:03:30.522 --> 00:03:33.050 at the end of Season 3. 96 00:03:33.050 --> 00:03:35.710 And having gotten a taste of that, 97 00:03:35.710 --> 00:03:38.583 that maybe not having gone quite as she had imagined it, 98 00:03:39.706 --> 00:03:43.420 but all of those things leave her 99 00:03:43.420 --> 00:03:46.520 a little less certain of herself and her trajectory 100 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:48.280 than she's ever been before. 101 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:49.113 Mmhm. 102 00:03:49.113 --> 00:03:50.940 And I don't think she knows what that means, 103 00:03:50.940 --> 00:03:52.490 because I don't think that-- 104 00:03:52.490 --> 00:03:53.750 I think it's been a very long time 105 00:03:53.750 --> 00:03:56.170 since she didn't know exactly what she wanted to do. 106 00:03:56.170 --> 00:03:59.400 The first time you meet her on the show she's very clear, 107 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:00.780 like I want to be a captain, 108 00:04:00.780 --> 00:04:05.010 but I think the experiences she's had coming to the future, 109 00:04:05.010 --> 00:04:07.570 actually having tried captainhood, 110 00:04:07.570 --> 00:04:11.970 and kind of felt the weight of that responsibility, 111 00:04:11.970 --> 00:04:14.120 put her in a much more uncertain place. 112 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:17.380 And through what happens in Episode 4, 113 00:04:17.380 --> 00:04:20.730 even though there's a lot of disaster, a lot of things-- 114 00:04:20.730 --> 00:04:21.563 Little bit. 115 00:04:21.563 --> 00:04:22.396 Yeah. 116 00:04:22.396 --> 00:04:24.250 But I do think she has the experience 117 00:04:24.250 --> 00:04:27.158 of doing something that feels like it fits. 118 00:04:27.158 --> 00:04:28.230 Yeah. 119 00:04:28.230 --> 00:04:30.530 And I think she wants to chase that feeling, 120 00:04:31.990 --> 00:04:35.950 and find out who she becomes and what's next to her 121 00:04:35.950 --> 00:04:38.170 without anticipating what that might be. 122 00:04:38.170 --> 00:04:40.030 There are numerous moments when she's dealing 123 00:04:40.030 --> 00:04:41.460 with these cadets, 124 00:04:41.460 --> 00:04:46.380 where I was like, Tilly, look at you! 125 00:04:46.380 --> 00:04:48.330 Get after it! 126 00:04:48.330 --> 00:04:49.633 Stop it, all of you! 127 00:04:49.633 --> 00:04:52.039 Listen, I'm usually a very upbeat person-- 128 00:04:52.039 --> 00:04:53.970 bubbly, some would say-- 129 00:04:53.970 --> 00:04:55.650 but right now I have one job. 130 00:04:55.650 --> 00:04:57.400 It's keeping all of you alive, 131 00:04:57.400 --> 00:04:59.250 so we're staying together. 132 00:04:59.250 --> 00:05:00.263 Yeah. 133 00:05:00.263 --> 00:05:03.490 I don't know, maybe she was too hard on them, 134 00:05:03.490 --> 00:05:08.490 but I think a couple times this season 135 00:05:08.500 --> 00:05:11.170 Tilly has somebody come out of her 136 00:05:11.170 --> 00:05:13.460 that she's not quite comfortable with, 137 00:05:13.460 --> 00:05:15.140 and that we haven't seen before. 138 00:05:15.140 --> 00:05:18.448 A very sort of stronger, 139 00:05:19.823 --> 00:05:21.599 less diplomatic 140 00:05:21.599 --> 00:05:23.160 kind of person. 141 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:26.810 And I think at times she's uncomfortable with that. 142 00:05:26.810 --> 00:05:30.800 She definitely snaps at Adira earlier in the season. 143 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:32.640 Been working on a new predictive algorithm, 144 00:05:32.640 --> 00:05:33.840 but the data is so limited that I-- 145 00:05:33.840 --> 00:05:35.590 Well, did you include Nalasis' gravimetric data 146 00:05:35.590 --> 00:05:36.970 from the station in your calculations? 147 00:05:36.970 --> 00:05:37.950 Course, I've done this before. 148 00:05:37.950 --> 00:05:38.783 You don't have to check my work. 149 00:05:38.783 --> 00:05:39.950 Hey, you don't get to do that, okay? 150 00:05:39.950 --> 00:05:41.010 We've all done this before. 151 00:05:41.010 --> 00:05:42.850 We still double and triple check our work. 152 00:05:42.850 --> 00:05:44.010 Now, make sure that you've included 153 00:05:44.010 --> 00:05:46.820 the irregular gravitational strain on the ship, please. 154 00:05:46.820 --> 00:05:47.653 Thank you. 155 00:05:47.653 --> 00:05:50.420 And she has a moment with Adira in this episode 156 00:05:50.420 --> 00:05:52.060 where she really shuts them down 157 00:05:53.490 --> 00:05:56.086 or they sort of crash land. 158 00:05:56.086 --> 00:05:59.960 And so I think that's also part of 159 00:05:59.960 --> 00:06:01.260 what's adding to her discomfort 160 00:06:01.260 --> 00:06:03.110 is she doesn't have the patience she used to have, 161 00:06:03.110 --> 00:06:07.111 she's not all puppies and rainbows the way she used to be. 162 00:06:07.111 --> 00:06:07.944 Yeah. 163 00:06:07.944 --> 00:06:10.087 She's got to do some work on herself. 164 00:06:10.087 --> 00:06:11.340 Yeah. 165 00:06:11.340 --> 00:06:15.930 The relationship between Tilly and Adira 166 00:06:15.930 --> 00:06:17.900 is incredible to me. 167 00:06:17.900 --> 00:06:21.840 It is what I always hoped the relationship 168 00:06:21.840 --> 00:06:23.870 between Geordi and Wesley would be. 169 00:06:23.870 --> 00:06:26.240 The mentor-mentee relationship. 170 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:30.740 And I am aware, and I wonder if you would agree with this, 171 00:06:30.740 --> 00:06:35.540 I get the sense that as Tilly is mentoring Adira, 172 00:06:35.540 --> 00:06:38.359 Tilly kind of starts to mentor herself. 173 00:06:38.359 --> 00:06:42.825 And I felt like in the process of 174 00:06:42.825 --> 00:06:45.517 guiding this young person 175 00:06:45.517 --> 00:06:48.530 through what it means to come into Starfleet, 176 00:06:48.530 --> 00:06:51.830 I see Tilly kind of wondering, hey, wait a minute, 177 00:06:51.830 --> 00:06:54.540 these are all the things that I'm telling them to do, 178 00:06:54.540 --> 00:06:59.273 I don't know if that's actually my pathway. 179 00:07:00.630 --> 00:07:02.960 Am I projecting or do you agree? 180 00:07:02.960 --> 00:07:04.010 No, absolutely. 181 00:07:04.010 --> 00:07:05.250 I mean, I think... 182 00:07:05.250 --> 00:07:08.140 Teachers always say that their students teach them. 183 00:07:08.140 --> 00:07:09.000 Uh huh. 184 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:11.720 I think when you start having to help someone else 185 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:13.750 or guide or lead someone else, 186 00:07:13.750 --> 00:07:15.760 you find wisdom coming out of yourself 187 00:07:15.760 --> 00:07:17.680 that you also need to hear. 188 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:20.120 And so, I mean, I think that is one of the things 189 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:23.110 that adds to that sort of sudden North Star moment 190 00:07:23.110 --> 00:07:24.450 of like, I actually feel like, 191 00:07:24.450 --> 00:07:26.260 "Maybe I kind of have the chops for this?" 192 00:07:26.260 --> 00:07:31.260 There is a moment when she is with the cadets on the moon, 193 00:07:32.220 --> 00:07:34.260 and it just looks like things 194 00:07:34.260 --> 00:07:36.693 are maybe not going to go so great. 195 00:07:36.693 --> 00:07:40.630 And Tilly says, you're going to save yourselves, 196 00:07:40.630 --> 00:07:41.950 this is what you're going to do. 197 00:07:41.950 --> 00:07:45.210 I'm going to run and take the bad guys away from us. 198 00:07:45.210 --> 00:07:48.277 This was like a super not Tilly thing to do. 199 00:07:48.277 --> 00:07:49.940 [Wil laughs] 200 00:07:49.940 --> 00:07:52.197 And would you talk about her getting there? 201 00:07:52.197 --> 00:07:53.117 Yeah. 202 00:07:53.117 --> 00:07:55.620 And so, well, there's an interesting parallel 203 00:07:55.620 --> 00:07:57.080 for me in that moment, 204 00:07:57.080 --> 00:07:59.770 where sometimes the circumstances 205 00:07:59.770 --> 00:08:01.880 are what teach you who you're going to be 206 00:08:01.880 --> 00:08:04.640 or teach you who you can be under pressure. 207 00:08:04.640 --> 00:08:07.000 I had this moment in the third season, 208 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:09.517 where after I lose a ship to Osyraa 209 00:08:09.517 --> 00:08:11.460 I have to come back and take the bridge, 210 00:08:11.460 --> 00:08:14.400 and kind of hand command over to Burnham. 211 00:08:14.400 --> 00:08:17.157 And Tunde was directing us, 212 00:08:17.157 --> 00:08:21.450 and he kept telling me that I kind of seem too down, 213 00:08:21.450 --> 00:08:24.760 like too in my experience of having lost the ship, 214 00:08:24.760 --> 00:08:26.370 of having gone through this big thing. 215 00:08:26.370 --> 00:08:28.860 And I was a bit stubborn and was kind of like, 216 00:08:28.860 --> 00:08:30.710 yeah, but I want to be authentic to that. 217 00:08:30.710 --> 00:08:35.560 And he said, yes, but a leader, part of what you do is... 218 00:08:37.390 --> 00:08:42.390 you set the tenor and the temperature of the entire room 219 00:08:43.157 --> 00:08:44.990 by the way that you lead. 220 00:08:44.990 --> 00:08:47.480 So this moment is actually about doing something 221 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:49.413 that's not about your personal experience, 222 00:08:49.413 --> 00:08:52.110 and taking care of everyone else. 223 00:08:52.110 --> 00:08:54.330 So that was like a huge learning moment for me in terms of 224 00:08:54.330 --> 00:08:57.890 like what it means to be a leader last season. 225 00:08:57.890 --> 00:09:02.181 And I think that sort of exercised itself 226 00:09:02.181 --> 00:09:04.040 at the end of this episode 227 00:09:04.040 --> 00:09:08.573 where she has to make this really sacrificial 228 00:09:08.573 --> 00:09:09.890 act. 229 00:09:09.890 --> 00:09:12.901 There is this thing that I kept thinking about 230 00:09:12.901 --> 00:09:15.520 through this entire episode that we just watched, 231 00:09:15.520 --> 00:09:17.670 which is, "They're children. 232 00:09:17.670 --> 00:09:20.460 Oh my God, they're children." 233 00:09:20.460 --> 00:09:23.900 They are little kids, 234 00:09:23.900 --> 00:09:27.510 and they have to learn how to be Starfleet officers, 235 00:09:27.510 --> 00:09:30.150 and they have to learn how to work together. 236 00:09:30.150 --> 00:09:32.020 And I'm watching that thinking, 237 00:09:32.020 --> 00:09:33.970 this really is the future of Starfleet. 238 00:09:33.970 --> 00:09:36.720 This is a huge responsibility. 239 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:40.660 Yeah. And Adira is also a child, right? 240 00:09:40.660 --> 00:09:41.493 Yeah! 241 00:09:41.493 --> 00:09:43.349 Like they're a teenager. 242 00:09:43.349 --> 00:09:44.182 Yeah. 243 00:09:44.182 --> 00:09:45.260 And so before this, 244 00:09:45.260 --> 00:09:49.365 Tilly was treating them like they were coworkers-- 245 00:09:49.365 --> 00:09:50.198 Uh huh. 246 00:09:50.198 --> 00:09:53.060 and adding a bunch of other people who are their same age, 247 00:09:53.060 --> 00:09:56.197 actually see Adira as they are, which is a kid still. 248 00:09:56.197 --> 00:10:00.600 Today's exercise will be a typical survey mission. 249 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:03.190 Lieutenant Callum will be taking us to Geryon 250 00:10:03.190 --> 00:10:07.230 which is an M-class desert moon, orbiting Theta Helios. 251 00:10:07.230 --> 00:10:10.485 Once there, we will carry out a full planetary analysis. 252 00:10:10.485 --> 00:10:12.010 Yes! 253 00:10:12.010 --> 00:10:13.690 So fun. 254 00:10:13.690 --> 00:10:14.610 I think it's fun. 255 00:10:14.610 --> 00:10:17.128 I mean, it's new worlds, new things. 256 00:10:17.128 --> 00:10:18.190 Like, hey, what's that? 257 00:10:18.190 --> 00:10:19.820 Is that a new life form? 258 00:10:19.820 --> 00:10:20.653 What?! 259 00:10:22.030 --> 00:10:23.119 Amazing. 260 00:10:26.300 --> 00:10:29.360 Tilly's been on a bunch of away missions this season, 261 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:31.840 including this unintentional away mission, 262 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:36.469 crash landing on the terrible ice moon. 263 00:10:36.469 --> 00:10:41.469 This means that you have been on some interesting locations. 264 00:10:42.140 --> 00:10:45.290 I presume you have gotten to work with the AR wall. 265 00:10:45.290 --> 00:10:46.850 Here's my question. 266 00:10:46.850 --> 00:10:50.530 Please tell me that all of that ice moon was a soundstage. 267 00:10:50.530 --> 00:10:52.250 Please tell me you weren't really out 268 00:10:52.250 --> 00:10:53.460 in the middle of the wilderness. 269 00:10:53.460 --> 00:10:54.610 'Cause that looked miserable. 270 00:10:54.610 --> 00:10:55.700 Yeah. 271 00:10:55.700 --> 00:10:58.965 So we do shoot in Toronto. 272 00:10:58.965 --> 00:11:01.429 So we have access to a lot of ice moons. 273 00:11:01.429 --> 00:11:03.320 [Wil laughing] 274 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:04.948 Yeah, of course. 275 00:11:04.948 --> 00:11:06.277 Yeah, Blu and I, and all the rest, 276 00:11:06.277 --> 00:11:08.190 we packed up and went 277 00:11:08.190 --> 00:11:10.440 to a super frozen quarry 278 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:13.573 during some really exciting weather events. 279 00:11:13.573 --> 00:11:16.229 So the suffering that you see 280 00:11:16.229 --> 00:11:19.525 in this episode is veritas. 281 00:11:19.525 --> 00:11:21.157 Yeah, it really, it reads. 282 00:11:21.157 --> 00:11:21.990 Yeah. 283 00:11:21.990 --> 00:11:24.800 So the frozen quarry is to you 284 00:11:24.800 --> 00:11:28.690 what Vasquez Rocks was to us. 285 00:11:28.690 --> 00:11:30.510 That's a very narrow cast reference 286 00:11:30.510 --> 00:11:31.640 that not a lot of people are going to get, 287 00:11:31.640 --> 00:11:33.190 but I promise you, the people who get it 288 00:11:33.190 --> 00:11:34.830 are very satisfied right now. 289 00:11:34.830 --> 00:11:35.663 Okay. 290 00:11:35.663 --> 00:11:38.100 Let's talk about Tilly leaving this crew 291 00:11:38.100 --> 00:11:40.549 she has been with for so long, 292 00:11:40.549 --> 00:11:44.250 and starting this new chapter of her life. 293 00:11:44.250 --> 00:11:46.600 I'm going to tell you as a fan, 294 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:50.005 as someone who unabashedly adores Tilly, 295 00:11:50.005 --> 00:11:54.500 I was real sad when I saw this coming. 296 00:11:54.500 --> 00:11:57.290 When I realized that she's not going to be on the bridge, 297 00:11:57.290 --> 00:12:00.140 that she's going to be in a different place. 298 00:12:00.140 --> 00:12:01.710 As a person who loves her character, 299 00:12:01.710 --> 00:12:03.350 I was also deeply supportive 300 00:12:03.350 --> 00:12:05.490 of her doing the thing that she wants to do. 301 00:12:05.490 --> 00:12:07.110 But like, look, I'm a fan. 302 00:12:07.110 --> 00:12:08.870 I'm going to miss seeing you all the time. 303 00:12:08.870 --> 00:12:12.310 She's probably going to miss Burnham and Saru 304 00:12:12.310 --> 00:12:14.090 and Adira and Stamets. 305 00:12:14.090 --> 00:12:18.757 So what do you think Tilly is going to miss the most 306 00:12:18.757 --> 00:12:21.830 about not being on Discovery? 307 00:12:21.830 --> 00:12:23.580 I think that they'll talk all the time, 308 00:12:23.580 --> 00:12:26.290 but I think the hardest thing is going to be... 309 00:12:26.290 --> 00:12:29.171 Yeah, being away from Burnham. 310 00:12:29.171 --> 00:12:30.230 But I guess you could say that 311 00:12:30.230 --> 00:12:31.390 about everyone. 312 00:12:31.390 --> 00:12:34.110 Since our jump to the future, 313 00:12:34.110 --> 00:12:37.440 it's just, it feels very clear in the writing, 314 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:38.700 and also in our time on set 315 00:12:38.700 --> 00:12:40.320 that these people have become 316 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:43.550 the only family they have left. 317 00:12:43.550 --> 00:12:45.310 And that's a very special relationship 318 00:12:45.310 --> 00:12:47.860 of having to keep the ship afloat 319 00:12:47.860 --> 00:12:50.700 and navigate all these personal relationships. 320 00:12:50.700 --> 00:12:52.870 So I think being away from Burnham 321 00:12:52.870 --> 00:12:53.790 is going to be really hard. 322 00:12:53.790 --> 00:12:57.340 I think being away from Saru as a sort of paternal figure 323 00:12:57.340 --> 00:13:01.130 was hard when he was gone, and will be when she's away. 324 00:13:01.130 --> 00:13:03.197 I think, everybody. 325 00:13:03.197 --> 00:13:08.070 But I think, sometimes it's important 326 00:13:08.070 --> 00:13:09.800 to get a little distance from your family 327 00:13:09.800 --> 00:13:12.040 in order to really figure out who you are. 328 00:13:12.040 --> 00:13:14.193 Yeah, for sure. 329 00:13:15.570 --> 00:13:18.570 I have one more official question 330 00:13:19.690 --> 00:13:23.420 that is on my list of "Things you must ask Mary." 331 00:13:23.420 --> 00:13:27.890 But while I was watching today's episode, 332 00:13:27.890 --> 00:13:30.480 something really profound happened to me 333 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:34.493 as a result of something you said as Tilly. 334 00:13:35.650 --> 00:13:38.830 It is the first time in my life I watched Star Trek, 335 00:13:38.830 --> 00:13:41.520 and Star Trek made me cry, 336 00:13:41.520 --> 00:13:44.130 because it touched me personally in a way 337 00:13:44.130 --> 00:13:45.800 that it hasn't before. 338 00:13:45.800 --> 00:13:47.810 I want to get this question exactly right, 339 00:13:47.810 --> 00:13:52.270 so I actually wrote it down so I can ask you myself. 340 00:13:52.270 --> 00:13:54.630 And I'm just going to read this to you, 341 00:13:54.630 --> 00:13:56.700 and you can say whatever you want, 342 00:13:56.700 --> 00:13:58.980 or you can just simply pass. 343 00:13:58.980 --> 00:13:59.813 Cool? 344 00:13:59.813 --> 00:14:00.650 Yeah. 345 00:14:00.650 --> 00:14:01.530 Okay. 346 00:14:01.530 --> 00:14:03.240 In this episode, 347 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:04.467 there is a moment.. 348 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:06.870 I'm gonna to cry when I do this, 349 00:14:06.870 --> 00:14:08.400 and I'm sorry if it makes you uncomfortable, 350 00:14:08.400 --> 00:14:10.403 it's just a thing that's going to happen. 351 00:14:10.403 --> 00:14:11.510 Does not. 352 00:14:11.510 --> 00:14:12.870 In this episode, there's a moment 353 00:14:12.870 --> 00:14:14.223 between Burnham and Tilly, 354 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:16.547 when Tilly is telling Burnham 355 00:14:16.547 --> 00:14:19.290 that she's going to go back to Starfleet Academy 356 00:14:19.290 --> 00:14:23.120 because Starfleet Academy is where Tilly wants to be. 357 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:27.330 And maybe it's where Tilly always wanted to be. 358 00:14:27.330 --> 00:14:31.040 In that scene, Tilly says she's been on this path 359 00:14:31.040 --> 00:14:33.730 to the captain's chair her whole life, 360 00:14:33.730 --> 00:14:36.400 and she never really questioned that path 361 00:14:36.400 --> 00:14:39.096 until Disco jumped forward in time. 362 00:14:39.096 --> 00:14:43.430 This made Tilly realize she had been placed 363 00:14:43.430 --> 00:14:46.810 on this path to the captain's chair by her mother, 364 00:14:46.810 --> 00:14:50.754 without Tilly's consultation and without Tilly's consent. 365 00:14:50.754 --> 00:14:53.939 And Tilly stayed on that path 366 00:14:53.939 --> 00:14:56.870 because she thought it was the only path 367 00:14:56.870 --> 00:15:00.510 she was ever going to be allowed to walk on. 368 00:15:00.510 --> 00:15:02.060 And she stayed on that path, 369 00:15:02.060 --> 00:15:04.500 not because she wanted to be on that path, 370 00:15:04.500 --> 00:15:06.793 but because, in Tilly's words, 371 00:15:08.617 --> 00:15:10.867 "I just wanted to be seen." 372 00:15:12.950 --> 00:15:17.340 That moment resonated with me on this deeply personal level, 373 00:15:17.340 --> 00:15:19.360 unlike any other moment in the history 374 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:20.580 of any Star Trek series, 375 00:15:20.580 --> 00:15:23.270 because all I ever wanted in my life 376 00:15:23.270 --> 00:15:27.800 was to be seen by parents who put me on a path 377 00:15:27.800 --> 00:15:30.823 I didn't wanna be on, and then wouldn't let me change. 378 00:15:32.140 --> 00:15:36.960 I was willing to do anything to be seen by my parents, 379 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:39.830 even staying on a path that I just didn't want to, 380 00:15:39.830 --> 00:15:41.113 that wasn't right for me. 381 00:15:43.020 --> 00:15:45.313 I guess I don't really have a question. 382 00:15:46.300 --> 00:15:49.030 I just want you to know, 383 00:15:49.030 --> 00:15:53.040 we talk all the time about how important Star Trek is. 384 00:15:53.040 --> 00:15:55.790 We talk all the time about how Star Trek 385 00:15:55.790 --> 00:15:57.510 is so much bigger than all of us. 386 00:15:57.510 --> 00:16:00.510 And I want you to know that the vulnerability 387 00:16:00.510 --> 00:16:02.800 that you gave Tilly in that moment 388 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:06.683 was so familiar to me, 389 00:16:08.830 --> 00:16:13.730 and it made me feel the least alone I have felt 390 00:16:13.730 --> 00:16:17.223 in a really, really long time. 391 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:21.840 I am literally part of Star Trek. 392 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:23.780 And that moment is the first time 393 00:16:23.780 --> 00:16:28.293 I felt represented in the Star Trek Universe. 394 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:31.783 You made me feel seen. 395 00:16:33.010 --> 00:16:35.463 And I want to say, thank you for that. 396 00:16:36.560 --> 00:16:37.990 And I know there are other people 397 00:16:37.990 --> 00:16:39.713 who feel seen the same way. 398 00:16:41.180 --> 00:16:42.530 It's a little moment. 399 00:16:42.530 --> 00:16:44.573 It's like three words, 400 00:16:45.870 --> 00:16:48.263 but it made such a huge difference for me. 401 00:16:49.230 --> 00:16:53.273 And I just really wanna say, thank you for that. 402 00:16:55.396 --> 00:16:56.588 Um. 403 00:17:05.220 --> 00:17:09.830 You know 'cause you're an actor that these moments 404 00:17:09.830 --> 00:17:12.440 where your personal experience reflects back 405 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:15.320 in an audience member and they reflect it back in you, 406 00:17:15.320 --> 00:17:17.460 are like really kind of the heart of the reason 407 00:17:17.460 --> 00:17:19.860 we ever would do anything like this. 408 00:17:19.860 --> 00:17:21.970 And so I don't want to put too fine a point on it 409 00:17:21.970 --> 00:17:23.580 because what you said is so beautiful 410 00:17:23.580 --> 00:17:25.803 and I wanna thank you for being so candid. 411 00:17:29.010 --> 00:17:30.650 It's really important to other people, 412 00:17:30.650 --> 00:17:33.163 it's been important to me to read, you know? 413 00:17:34.540 --> 00:17:39.540 All I'll say is that that moment was very important to me, 414 00:17:39.550 --> 00:17:43.550 and had a lot of resonance for me my own way, 415 00:17:43.550 --> 00:17:46.140 and so to have that sort of magical moment 416 00:17:46.140 --> 00:17:47.540 that it's reflected back in you, 417 00:17:47.540 --> 00:17:49.040 and then you get to share it back in me, 418 00:17:49.040 --> 00:17:51.780 it's literally the reason all this stuff exists. 419 00:17:51.780 --> 00:17:54.610 So I want to thank you for that, for sharing it with me. 420 00:17:54.610 --> 00:17:55.680 I really appreciate it. 421 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:56.744 Thank you. 422 00:17:56.744 --> 00:17:57.944 I really appreciate you-- 423 00:17:57.944 --> 00:17:59.190 I know it's heavy-- 424 00:17:59.190 --> 00:18:00.990 I appreciate you receiving it. 425 00:18:00.990 --> 00:18:01.920 Of course. 426 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:06.210 I'm gonna put my question back in my pocket, 427 00:18:06.210 --> 00:18:09.130 and I'm gonna go right back to the questions 428 00:18:09.130 --> 00:18:11.550 that I have from the control room. 429 00:18:11.550 --> 00:18:12.550 And I'm going to wrap this up, 430 00:18:12.550 --> 00:18:16.230 in hopefully significantly lighter direction. 431 00:18:16.230 --> 00:18:17.110 Okay. 432 00:18:17.110 --> 00:18:19.670 You know how much I love Tilly, I've told you, 433 00:18:19.670 --> 00:18:21.830 I've told the world. 434 00:18:21.830 --> 00:18:23.450 She's doing her thing now. 435 00:18:23.450 --> 00:18:26.570 I'm so happy for her. 436 00:18:26.570 --> 00:18:28.400 I cannot wait. 437 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:31.390 But I'm a fan, and I love Discovery, 438 00:18:31.390 --> 00:18:33.480 and it's just me now, this isn't Ready Room. 439 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:35.750 She's coming back right? 440 00:18:35.750 --> 00:18:36.947 She's coming back. 441 00:18:36.947 --> 00:18:37.970 You can't keep her. 442 00:18:37.970 --> 00:18:38.803 Okay. 443 00:18:38.803 --> 00:18:40.248 That is all I needed to know. 444 00:18:40.248 --> 00:18:42.160 [Wil laughs] 445 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:42.993 Thank you. 446 00:18:42.993 --> 00:18:45.600 Mary, we're just at the beginning of this season, 447 00:18:45.600 --> 00:18:48.080 and it's so cool, 448 00:18:48.080 --> 00:18:50.440 while I've been doing my homework to prepare for Ready Room, 449 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:52.220 I keep running out into the house to tell my wife 450 00:18:52.220 --> 00:18:53.060 how much I love the show. 451 00:18:53.060 --> 00:18:55.670 Aw, that's so sweet. 452 00:18:55.670 --> 00:18:57.190 Is there anything coming up this year 453 00:18:57.190 --> 00:18:59.390 that you want to tease, that you're excited about? 454 00:18:59.390 --> 00:19:03.430 Oh, I am going to do actually a play this winter 455 00:19:03.430 --> 00:19:08.150 in New York City at Lincoln Center's LTC3 Theater. 456 00:19:08.150 --> 00:19:09.690 Uh, that's amazing! 457 00:19:09.690 --> 00:19:14.630 It's a comedy about love, it's super queer, super fun, 458 00:19:14.630 --> 00:19:15.930 super deep and heartfelt. 459 00:19:15.930 --> 00:19:18.280 So if you're in New York, come see me. 460 00:19:18.280 --> 00:19:20.050 I am really looking forward 461 00:19:20.050 --> 00:19:22.100 to being in the same place as you, whenever that happens. 462 00:19:22.100 --> 00:19:24.330 Thanks for making time to be with us today. 463 00:19:24.330 --> 00:19:26.888 Thank you so much, Wil, I appreciate it so much. 464 00:19:48.181 --> 00:19:50.670 This week's episode of Star Trek: Discovery was jam-packed 465 00:19:50.670 --> 00:19:53.170 with incredibly heartwarming and heart pounding moments. 466 00:19:53.170 --> 00:19:56.640 You know that one of them was especially important to me. 467 00:19:56.640 --> 00:19:59.110 But there was another moment that caught my attention. 468 00:19:59.110 --> 00:20:01.280 It came near the end of the episode, 469 00:20:01.280 --> 00:20:04.010 when Tilly gave her Disco snow globe to Adira 470 00:20:04.010 --> 00:20:05.180 as a parting gift. 471 00:20:05.180 --> 00:20:08.043 Now, like you, I love seeing quiet moments 472 00:20:08.043 --> 00:20:09.150 like this in Star Trek. 473 00:20:09.150 --> 00:20:11.570 So why don't we hear from some of the cast and crew 474 00:20:11.570 --> 00:20:13.130 about how this trinket was made, 475 00:20:13.130 --> 00:20:15.717 and what it meant to both characters to have it. 476 00:20:15.717 --> 00:20:16.550 Take a look. 477 00:20:16.550 --> 00:20:20.490 Getting my lieutenant pips was the worst day of my life. 478 00:20:20.490 --> 00:20:23.930 And I started wondering if this is what I really wanted 479 00:20:23.930 --> 00:20:27.233 or if I just really wanted to be seen. 480 00:20:29.940 --> 00:20:31.040 And that was humbling, 481 00:20:31.910 --> 00:20:35.636 but I think it could be a useful perspective for a teacher. 482 00:20:41.600 --> 00:20:44.060 At the end of Episode 4 483 00:20:44.060 --> 00:20:48.270 Tilly kind of passes along this snow globe to Adira. 484 00:20:48.270 --> 00:20:50.960 And it says at the bottom, "All is possible." 485 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:54.080 And I think Tilly wants Adira to hold that message 486 00:20:54.080 --> 00:20:55.680 inside of them, 487 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:56.950 as they go on, 488 00:20:56.950 --> 00:20:59.780 that the limits they're placing upon themselves 489 00:20:59.780 --> 00:21:03.070 aren't necessary, and that they can surprise themselves. 490 00:21:03.070 --> 00:21:04.550 Because that's what Tilly's discovered 491 00:21:04.550 --> 00:21:05.750 through her own journey. 492 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:10.250 Reading that just from the script was beautiful, 493 00:21:10.250 --> 00:21:11.480 and I really loved it. 494 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:14.180 And actually getting to film that scene, 495 00:21:14.180 --> 00:21:16.340 which wasn't even a scene between Ian and myself, 496 00:21:16.340 --> 00:21:17.680 we weren't speaking. 497 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:20.780 It was filmed more as sort of part of a montage. 498 00:21:20.780 --> 00:21:21.930 And they kind of even told us 499 00:21:21.930 --> 00:21:23.790 to kind of move in slow motion. 500 00:21:23.790 --> 00:21:25.640 Mary wasn't there at that point, 501 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:28.780 and I'd finished filming all my stuff with Mary. 502 00:21:28.780 --> 00:21:33.730 So then having that a little kind of montage with Ian, 503 00:21:33.730 --> 00:21:37.420 and getting to finally see this little snow globe 504 00:21:37.420 --> 00:21:38.350 that they built 505 00:21:38.350 --> 00:21:40.080 was beautiful. 506 00:21:40.080 --> 00:21:42.890 We tracked down a custom snow globe company, 507 00:21:42.890 --> 00:21:45.250 and spoke to Michelle Paradise about it. 508 00:21:45.250 --> 00:21:46.650 She was really kind of stoked 509 00:21:46.650 --> 00:21:49.050 to have the original Enterprise in there. 510 00:21:49.050 --> 00:21:51.130 And the cool thing I didn't know about snow globes 511 00:21:51.130 --> 00:21:55.120 is that the actual, the way the liquid and the globe work is 512 00:21:55.120 --> 00:21:57.490 that it magnifies anything inside there 513 00:21:57.490 --> 00:21:59.130 up to the size that it needs. 514 00:21:59.130 --> 00:22:02.530 So the Enterprise is actually only about the size 515 00:22:02.530 --> 00:22:04.660 of a silver dollar. 516 00:22:04.660 --> 00:22:07.360 You're a reminder to me that everything is possible. 517 00:22:10.050 --> 00:22:12.764 It's that thing, when you meet the younger generation, 518 00:22:12.764 --> 00:22:16.100 you just want to give them all the wisdom you have 519 00:22:16.100 --> 00:22:18.400 so they don't have to earn it in the hard way. 520 00:22:19.780 --> 00:22:21.180 And I just hope that connection 521 00:22:21.180 --> 00:22:23.040 between Tilly and Adira stays, 522 00:22:23.040 --> 00:22:26.932 because Adira is weirdly teaching Tilly how to be an adult. 523 00:22:48.390 --> 00:22:50.690 And the answer is: 524 00:23:04.636 --> 00:23:07.490 To borrow a phrase from the good Dr. Hugh Culber, 525 00:23:07.490 --> 00:23:09.880 I've made you wait a long-ass time 526 00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:11.620 for this exclusive sneak peek 527 00:23:11.620 --> 00:23:14.030 from next week's episode of Star Trek: Discovery, 528 00:23:14.030 --> 00:23:16.500 and your wait has now ended. 529 00:23:16.500 --> 00:23:17.550 Enjoy. 530 00:23:17.550 --> 00:23:19.920 Captain, I have the magistrate on coms for you. 531 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:20.986 Put him through. 532 00:23:22.380 --> 00:23:25.724 Magistrate, I'm Captain Burnham of the U.S.S. Discovery. 533 00:23:25.724 --> 00:23:27.640 Thank Draylan you're here. 534 00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:29.210 We sent off all available ships. 535 00:23:29.210 --> 00:23:31.372 They held scarcely a quarter of our population. 536 00:23:31.372 --> 00:23:32.760 All the rest are waiting. 537 00:23:32.760 --> 00:23:33.740 They've begun to panic. 538 00:23:33.740 --> 00:23:35.140 I'll send a team down to assist. 539 00:23:35.140 --> 00:23:36.350 We will get everyone out. 540 00:23:36.350 --> 00:23:38.710 Captain, we're seeing six life signs 541 00:23:38.710 --> 00:23:40.610 beneath the north dome generator. 542 00:23:40.610 --> 00:23:41.870 They are remaining stationary, 543 00:23:41.870 --> 00:23:43.500 far from the evacuation point. 544 00:23:43.500 --> 00:23:45.460 Are you aware of these individuals? 545 00:23:45.460 --> 00:23:48.210 Of course, they are the examples. 546 00:23:48.210 --> 00:23:50.253 Records show it is the colony's prison. 547 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:53.200 They need to be evacuated immediately. 548 00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:54.880 Why? They're criminals. 549 00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:55.940 Six offenders chosen 550 00:23:55.940 --> 00:23:58.455 to demonstrate the costs of misbehavior. 551 00:23:58.455 --> 00:23:59.880 An Emerald Chain tradition. 552 00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:02.050 It has proven most effective in preventing crime. 553 00:24:02.050 --> 00:24:03.090 It doesn't matter who they are. 554 00:24:03.090 --> 00:24:04.393 They don't deserve to die there. 555 00:24:04.393 --> 00:24:06.780 This is a Federation mission, Magistrate. 556 00:24:06.780 --> 00:24:08.710 No one will be left behind. 557 00:24:08.710 --> 00:24:09.950 It's too late. 558 00:24:09.950 --> 00:24:11.290 The prison is automated, 559 00:24:11.290 --> 00:24:13.564 and the few who know how to run it fled hours ago. 560 00:24:13.564 --> 00:24:16.668 The law-abiding among us await you. 561 00:24:17.760 --> 00:24:21.150 Mr. Saru, assemble a team to help with the evacuation. 562 00:24:21.150 --> 00:24:23.660 Thank you all so much for joining me here 563 00:24:23.660 --> 00:24:25.040 in The Ready Room today. 564 00:24:25.040 --> 00:24:27.035 This week's installment 565 00:24:27.035 --> 00:24:29.210 meant a lot to me. 566 00:24:29.210 --> 00:24:30.610 Next week, I'll be chatting 567 00:24:30.610 --> 00:24:32.820 with the U.S.S. Discovery's premier scientist 568 00:24:32.820 --> 00:24:35.620 and all-around wonderful human, Anthony Rapp. 569 00:24:35.620 --> 00:24:37.860 I know that I, for one, cannot wait to hear 570 00:24:37.860 --> 00:24:38.693 what he has to say, 571 00:24:38.693 --> 00:24:40.420 and I suspect there are some of you in the audience 572 00:24:40.420 --> 00:24:41.740 who agree with me. 573 00:24:41.740 --> 00:24:43.498 Until then, I'm Wil Wheaton. 574 00:24:43.498 --> 00:24:45.836 Live long and prosper.