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Happy New Year, nerds!
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I'm Wil Wheaton and this
is "The Ready Room,"
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your official behind-the-scenes hub
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for all things Star Trek Universe.
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Now the start of 2021 is
already a little bittersweet
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because it means our
time in "The Ready Room"
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is coming to an end, at least for now.
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But I can't think of a better way
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to kick this year off
than with a deep dive
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into the Season 3 finale
of Star Trek: Discovery.
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Of course, as always,
we will be getting deep
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into spoiler territory.
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So, now more than ever,
if you have not watched
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Season 3, Episode 13,
"That Hope is You, Part 2,"
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you need to reverse course immediately
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and jump into that episode.
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And then, come right back,
because we have three
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amazing guests waiting
in the wings this week.
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Commander-- I'm sorry, Captain
Michael Burnham herself,
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Sonequa Martin-Green is back with us,
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as well as the finale's
Director, Olatunde Osunsanmi,
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and Writer, Executive Producer
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and Co-Showrunner, Michelle Paradise.
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But before we get to the interview,
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let's talk about that new
game-changing captaincy
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aboard the U.S.S. Discovery.
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Wow! "Let's fly," indeed.
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Here's some of the series' creators
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to talk about this epic
conclusion in our final
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"Moments of Discovery" for Season 3.
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Control room? Engage.
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[Michael] Disconnection.
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That's how this future began.
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One moment in time that radiated outward
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until no one even remembered
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that connection was possible anymore.
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But it is.
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This season, thematically,
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it's really all about
connection and disconnection.
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We enter this world that
is very disconnected
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and because our heroes are here,
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because of who they are,
because of who Burnham is,
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we're able to reconnect
and bring societies
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back into the Federation, and
bring people back together.
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You found your way home.
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We live in a world where
things are disconnected
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and where certain choices
have consequences,
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and we don't always see what those are.
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And so, we wanted to explore,
over the course of the season,
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how that would play out in our world
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and in different societies that we meet.
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And then with Su'Kal, we were looking
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for what kind of story could we tell
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where the disconnection
would be so profound
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that something like this could can happen.
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Something that wasn't his fault,
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but something that he was part of
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and experienced, and now there
are pieces to be picked up
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and who's gonna do that?
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And we all have to do that.
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I would like to help repair
what is broken, if I can.
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And it's scary.
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It's scary to look beyond
what is familiar to us.
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It's scary to reach out
and connect with those
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who are different from us.
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It's scary to envision a
world that is different,
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because this is the only world we know.
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But by trusting and
connecting and going out
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into the wider world, he--by
the end of the season--
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gets to see love and
connection all around him.
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He gets to go back to Kaminar with Saru
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and experience a life that
he never would've gotten
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to experience otherwise.
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Saru really wants to take this opportunity
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because he wants to go home, too.
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His nostalgia's gotten the better of him
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and now here is a
Kelpien that really needs
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a big brother type, so Saru
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He's questioning what it is
that he wants out of life.
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So it'll be real interesting
to see what Michelle and Alex
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come up with Season 4, whether or not Saru
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is going to be an admiral.
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Is he gonna go back to being a number one?
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Is it difficult to return to a ship
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that you captained and
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Is there some connection to Kaminar now
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that maybe, ooh, maybe
Ambassador Saru for Kaminar
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to the Federation, one day?
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There's many options and
many places we can go with it
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and I'm looking forward
to that, what's ahead.
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I hope that Saru stays on the ship.
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I also hope that he, if he
wants to stay on Kaminar,
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he does stay on Kaminar.
But I think the way
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that it ends is really beautiful.
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I'm really happy that Burnham
gets to step up as captain.
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[Tilly] Captain on the bridge.
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At the end of the
season, this is home now,
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and we need somebody to
lead us in this new future
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who really understands
it, who understands us,
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who's willing to take risks.
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Michael Burnham is the hero
that we need in that moment.
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We're just getting used
to this new future,
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but we don't know what type of enemies,
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for lack of a better word,
we're going to come up against
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or struggles we're gonna come
up against in this future.
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I'm excited for that
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because what is Burnham going
to be like as a captain?
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It was so great filming that final moment
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of walking back onto the bridge,
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and I think there's
this moment of reprieve.
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You know, we sit down, and
we've got a new captain.
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It's all very exciting.
And I think the future,
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if I had to bet on it,
is gonna hold more drama.
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I'm excited to see where she leads us.
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Let's fly.
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For my final interview of the season,
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I can think of no finer a trio to join me
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here in "The Ready Room,"
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to talk about the Season 3 finale.
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Sonequa Martin-Green, Michelle Paradise,
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and Olatunde Osunsanmi,
thank you for choosing
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to spend some time with us
today here in "The Ready Room."
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Thanks for having us.
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Of course,
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thank you for having us.
It's good to be here.
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From the very beginning of the show,
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we knew that Star Trek: Discovery
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was the story of a first
officer working her way
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up to the captain's chair.
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And now, at long last, Burnham
has reached that position.
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Burnham is in the big chair.
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Sonequa, would you just
describe how it feels
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to hit this milestone?
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[imitating head explosion]
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- That's how it feels.
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Just like that.
I mean, just the company
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you are in.
Ah!
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I mean, come on.
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[group laughing]
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It's crazy, it's pretty crazy.
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I think, honestly, I got
so used to the pursuit
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of the captain's chair in Season 1,
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and then, the sort of desire
for it kind of falling away,
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like as Michael, and then,
especially falling away
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in Season 3. So once
it was just before me,
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as Michael, and then, also, as Sonequa,
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everything just started rushing back,
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and the history, and what it
means, what it represents,
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and the honor of it and everything,
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just all came rushing in.
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So it means so much to me because of that,
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because of what it represents
historically and culturally.
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Can we just talk about that
for a real quick second?
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This isn't one of my official questions,
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but this is a thing is
really interesting to me.
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I'm a cis-het white dude.
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I do not ever have to
look for representation.
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It is literally everywhere
in the world I go.
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I know, just from the
experience of my friends,
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how important it is to
see the representation
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of successful women, especially
successful women of color.
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It is--
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what an amazing gift you have now
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of being a role model for young girls,
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who will look at you--
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Has that really settled in?
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Has that landed on you?
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There is a little girl right
now who is looking at you,
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who is just like, "I am
gonna be what I want to be,
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because Michael Burnham
got to be captain."
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Do you think about things like that?
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Uh, yeah.
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I think about things like that and I cry.
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And I don't want to be the
person who always cries
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in interviews.
I understand.
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You know what I mean?
I get it.
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Like on the panels?
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Like everybody can tell you,
like, "Ah, there she goes.
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She's crying again."
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Because if I, honestly,
I could cry right now,
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Because when I think about it.
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See?
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Darn it.
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[loud sigh and laughing]
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When I think about the girls.
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Yeah.
It really,
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it really gets me, especially
now that I have a girl.
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But then, also, my boy.
But all kids, in general,
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especially Black kids,
especially brown kids,
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especially all kids of all colors.
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Just being able to be
that, to be that proxy,
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to be the one that you can relate to,
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to show you that you can
be all that you want to be,
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and that you can be a leader,
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and that you can reach
your highest potential--
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Not that Burnham has reached
her highest potential,
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all the characters are
still striving for that.
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But just to be in that position,
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it means so much.
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It hits me every day,
and it keeps hitting me
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in new ways, and I cry.
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I love that.
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I love that you don't take it for granted.
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I just, that is just the coolest thing.
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That is like, you know, we
never wanna meet our heroes,
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'cause we don't wanna be disappointed,
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but like I really, I love that.
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Michelle and Tunde, was
it always the intention
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to put Burnham in the captain's chair
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at the end of this season?
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Yes, we started the season knowing
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that that was the journey
that were taking her on.
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Sorry, now I'm a little teary from that,
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so I'm gonna--
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Like, now I have to pull it together.
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we're always expecting
Burnham to eventually go there
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and this was the season that felt right.
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And from the beginning of the season,
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we knew that this was
going to be the journey
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to her getting into the captain's chair.
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And so, really, it was all
about when we start the season,
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how can we find, as writers,
because Sonequa will bring
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everything onto the screen,
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how do we try to find new
layers for this character?
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How do we write her in a such a way
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that she goes through a
journey that prepares her
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to take that chair at
the end of the season?
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And, I know, it was-- sorry,
that was a long answer
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to a short question. Yes, it was planned.
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Yes, we plotted that out, and yes,
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it was amazing to watch Sonequa do that
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in every episode.
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Such a joy.
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Tunde, how great was it to put Michael
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in the chair for the first time?
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Oh, it was a big deal.
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Every season, we'll read
the script or the synopsis
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of what's to come, and it's
like, "Is this the season?"
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Oh. [sighs]
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"Oh, is this season?"
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Oh, no, no.
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This is the season!
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So we knew it was the season,
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and all throughout that process
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Sonequa's hanging out on set,
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or hanging out on the bridge,
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like I don't think she ever once
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sat in that captain's chair.
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You know?
Never did.
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Well, I mean, that's a
Star Trek rule, right?
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Like unless you're the captain
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or the captain gives you permission,
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you do not sit in the captain's
chair if you're in the cast.
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Guests come in and sit in the chair
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'cause they don't know what it means.
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But for us, on the set, like I never sat
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in the captain's chair on the Enterprise
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unless I was explicitly
instructed to by someone.
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It's just, it's respect for the person
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and for what it means, right?
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Yeah, in a lot of ways,
yes, exactly right.
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But I gotta be honest, when
I come in on the weekend,
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on a Saturday, I've sat in the chair.
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I think you get a pass.
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It's a pretty good view
from there, you know,
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and you can kinda get into
what the captain's thinking
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and how to block it,
and so on and so forth.
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But you're absolutely right
about the respect of that.
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And Sonequa had that
for that chair to a T.
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So when we finally got to put her in,
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it was a big moment to see her in it.
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It was a big moment for the crew.
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And it's something that
I'll really cherish.
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And can I-
Sonequa, the last--
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Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead.
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Oh, that's okay, I just
wanted to add one other thing.
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Knowing that we were going there,
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one of the things, if
you go back and rewatch
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the season, there are episodes
where Burnham is in command
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of a certain mission, and
they're going to do things,
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and even then, if you rewatch, you'll see,
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she never sits in it. And
that was Tunde making sure--
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and Sonequa-- that she never...
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She would get close to the chair,
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but she would never sit in the
chair, to save it for that.
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So Sonequa, the first
time you sit in the chair,
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like the first time, not
rehearsal, cameras are rolling,
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it's take one, and Burnham
gets into the chair
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for the very first time,
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would you be willing to share with us
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a little bit of the
emotion of that moment?
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Oh my.
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You know, we had so many
conversations about this.
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And I'm so grateful that we were all--
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we all understood what the moment meant.
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And we were all kinda like, "Ah, man,
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this is deep, this is
really, really deep."
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Even our DP at the time,
it was, we all knew.
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And there was a mixture,
there were so many things,
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'cause there were things
that I was feeling,
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as Sonequa, because of
the tears I just shed
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a moment ago.
Absolutely.
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But then, also, even beyond the youth,
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it's just what it represents
to have a Black woman
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in that chair, also, just for the people
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who love this franchise,
and for the people
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who have had it in their
lives for generations,
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and then, also, for the
people who are here anew.
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It means a lot to see that.
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I would hear from people
on the convention circuit,
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they would say things like,
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"Ah, man, I'm so happy to see you in this.
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I'm so happy about this iteration
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and seeing you as the lead of it.
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You're not the captain,
though, but anyway, love you."
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You know? [laughs]
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But I understood it, though.
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There was actually merit to it,
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'cause it's like, there are these captains
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in the history of this franchise.
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And they have done so
much, and they have had
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such an impact, and there
is something to be said
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about the position, you know?
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There is such respect for that position.
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Captain Picard, my
captain, has a catchphrase.
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It is, "Make it so."
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Captain Pike says, "Hit it."
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Saru never really got there.
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He struggled, we love him,
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it was clearly not in his wheelhouse.
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But, "Let's fly," y'all, "Let's fly"
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is like an iconic phrase
that is going to go down
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with the ones I just
mentioned on Star Trek.
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How did you come up with Burnham's
let's-go-to-warp command?
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Because it is beautiful and
pitch perfect for her character.
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It's so awesome.
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Yeah, we went through a couple of,
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or a number of different options.
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Because you know that that is
associated with the captain,
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and it's so important
to find the right thing
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that's not, it has to
fit the phrase itself,
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but it has to fit the person
who's saying the phrase.
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There's just so much in all of that.
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And yes, we had great fun
with Saru's "Execute,"
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which never really, it
deliberately didn't land.
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Yeah.
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I think, if I remember correctly,
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that was one of the ones
that Alex had come up with
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as we were just tossing out
a bunch of different ideas.
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And I think the minute it came up,
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it was, "Oh, yeah, that's-- yes."
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It just felt and sounded right,
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and then when Burnham
says it, you just go, oh.
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Was it one of those moments
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where the whole room goes "Yes!"
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And then you keep working for three hours
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and you just go back to the one that was-
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Yeah, it was between that and "Execute."
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But then we kinda felt like,
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well Saru already said, "Execute"
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and it's just like, you know, so--
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We also tried "Let's sally forth,"
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but that didn't feel right, either, so.
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Oh, man, I would love that.
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I would love that.
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You know, I will say, too,
as a credit to our writers,
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and to our showrunners...
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I-- knowing that it was coming,
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I was also racking my
brain thinking of phrases,
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and I came up with so many in my mind.
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And it's almost as if,
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I was just about to
have this conversation,
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like, ah, and then, the script came,
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and I was like, "Oh."
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[Wil laughs] Yeah.
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Yep.
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Absolutely.
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Never mind. [laughs]
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You know what I mean?
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It was just, it's, you know--
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And that's just such a
credit to how our writers
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have the hearts of the
characters within them,
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so much so,
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because it spoke perfectly to me.
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Yeah.
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So much so that there was
no need for conversation.
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We saw, in this episode, Saru step down.
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Not just from being an acting captain,
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but from Discovery entirely.
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I don't need to know how,
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but I just need to know that
Saru will be back in Season 4.
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This is very important to me.
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Saru will definitely be back in Season 4.
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Okay, great.
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We--
Thank you.
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I will be holding you to that.
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Fantastic, yes.
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He will definitely be back in Season 4.
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And we were concerned that
people would be afraid
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that Saru would not be coming back,
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so it's part of why he
talks about going to Kaminar
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right now to be with Sukal, but we,
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hopefully, it comes across
that he will be back,
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because he will.
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Tunde, you directed last
season's season finale
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as well as this season's season finale.
409
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Is there anything in
particular about directing
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these episodes that are meant to wrap up
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these enormous seasonal
arcs that you find really
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either challenging or rewarding,
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or a mix of both?
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I mean, there is a reason
that Discovery chooses you
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to do these episodes.
416
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Oh, well, yeah, it's
amazing the trust there.
417
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The trust that they've
put in me to do that
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and I don't take it for granted.
419
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It's amazing that you get
these phenomenal scripts
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that require these huge
amount of resources,
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financial and otherwise,
and you're put in a position
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to succeed. And it's very intense
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in a gratifying way,
because every single scene
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is redlined, it's emotional.
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Every single scene means something,
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the stakes are super high,
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whether it's a finale or the premiere.
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And by the end, you have something
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that wraps up something
that is very important,
430
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a lot of eyeballs on it.
431
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So I think it's an intense
amount of fun for me,
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and it provides me with this adrenaline
433
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while I'm directing it
that is a bit addictive.
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I don't drink, I don't smoke,
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I don't do anything, right, so this is it.
436
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This is my natural high
and I feel very fortunate
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to be able to do it, and to
have these amazing scripts
438
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and these amazing performers
that are there to support me
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and carry me the rest of--
440
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carry me throughout the shooting of it.
441
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I wouldn't think of this episode as having
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sort of an A arc and a B arc.
443
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I think of it as having two A arcs
444
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that just sort of run
parallel to one another,
445
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but they both have incredibly high stakes,
446
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but they're very, very
different in their pacing
447
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and their tone.
448
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Is there anything that
really stood out for you
449
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in this episode, a particular scene
450
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that was particularly memorable for you,
451
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doing those two very different
very important stories?
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Well, yeah, I think a scene
that stood out the most
453
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is the scene we've already
sort of touched on,
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which is the final scene
455
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when Burnham took that captain's chair.
456
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Because for me, I
actually sleep pretty well
457
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during production, but before that scene,
458
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I couldn't get to sleep.
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Really?
I was tossing and turning.
460
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I woke up edgy, yep, I woke up edgy,
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I arrived to set edgy.
462
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My DP was edgy, as Sonequa mentioned,
463
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Glen Keenan, who has an incredible eye.
464
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And finally, we just
stopped and talked about it,
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and said, "What's going on?
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Why are we behaving this way?"
467
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And you know, it's because we care.
468
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We care so much about this.
469
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And Sonequa touched on the
little girls out there.
470
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I have a daughter that's seven years old,
471
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and Burnham and Sonequa
is everything to her.
472
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She is a big deal.
473
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I love that.
And so I knew
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it was a big deal to have,
475
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I knew it was a big
deal to have [laughs]...
476
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I knew it was a big deal to
have Sonequa sit in that chair
477
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and so I gave everything to
make it as special as possible.
478
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And I feel fortunate that it was Sonequa,
479
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the actor, the person, that
was sitting in that chair,
480
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because it made it so much easier.
481
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And everything people
say about her is true.
482
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She is the same, she is
a wonderful number one,
483
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she is a wonderful person,
and the show wouldn't be
484
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as enjoyable to be on it without her.
485
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And in situations like that,
486
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that we all feel are so important,
487
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it's important to have--
it's essential to have
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someone like that that's
leading the charge,
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and in front of the camera for it.
490
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If you're tuning in late, you are watching
491
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"Everyone Loves Sonequa Martin-Green,"
492
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featuring Michelle, Tunde, and myself.
493
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[laughs] Michelle, you
haven't really been able
494
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to talk at all about the joys
495
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of exploring the future this season.
496
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But we're all wrapped now,
there's no more spoilers.
497
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You can talk about anything you want.
498
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What has been your favorite
part of blazing a trail
499
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through some of this
new terrain this year?
500
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Oh, wow.
501
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It's just been, it's a lot of fun.
502
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It's just been a lot of fun
to find what does the world
503
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look like 930 years beyond where we were.
504
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And just on every level.
And we're fortunate
505
00:22:49.520 --> 00:22:52.360
to work with such creative individuals,
506
00:22:52.360 --> 00:22:55.048
just in every department, on every level.
507
00:22:55.048 --> 00:22:59.870
And I think we were all so
excited going into this season
508
00:22:59.870 --> 00:23:02.700
to explore together what this could be.
509
00:23:02.700 --> 00:23:04.650
Everything from personal transporters
510
00:23:04.650 --> 00:23:07.770
to programmable matter to
what are the different kinds
511
00:23:07.770 --> 00:23:09.466
of planets we can see?
512
00:23:09.466 --> 00:23:12.713
Where, in all the places,
can we push the envelope?
513
00:23:14.288 --> 00:23:17.910
As someone who's-- I'm a science geek,
514
00:23:17.910 --> 00:23:19.600
like I just love that stuff,
515
00:23:19.600 --> 00:23:23.060
I read that stuff just for fun on my own.
516
00:23:23.060 --> 00:23:26.860
And getting to explore
things that are just beyond
517
00:23:26.860 --> 00:23:28.460
what we can do, but still
kind of in the realm
518
00:23:28.460 --> 00:23:32.340
of what we can do, the opportunity to work
519
00:23:32.340 --> 00:23:36.613
with actual physicists
who help us figure out
520
00:23:36.613 --> 00:23:40.270
the minutiae of things
in scripts or in design
521
00:23:40.270 --> 00:23:43.960
so that the actual physicists
who are watching this
522
00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:45.830
don't watch the show and go,
"What are you talking about?
523
00:23:45.830 --> 00:23:47.990
That's, you can't do that!"
524
00:23:47.990 --> 00:23:48.823
Of course.
525
00:23:49.820 --> 00:23:53.030
So it's just, on all of those levels,
526
00:23:53.030 --> 00:23:55.250
it's just been super fulfilling.
527
00:23:55.250 --> 00:23:58.450
And then, on a character level,
528
00:23:58.450 --> 00:24:01.780
getting to explore these
characters in a brand new way.
529
00:24:01.780 --> 00:24:05.050
Taking them out of the world
that they have been in,
530
00:24:05.050 --> 00:24:07.216
and the world that they have known,
531
00:24:07.216 --> 00:24:10.720
and put them here and
seeing what happens to them,
532
00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:13.590
individually and as a family unit.
533
00:24:13.590 --> 00:24:15.760
How they push against one another,
534
00:24:15.760 --> 00:24:17.793
how they come together, how they grow.
535
00:24:19.030 --> 00:24:23.230
It's just been so much fun, all of it.
536
00:24:23.230 --> 00:24:25.030
Yeah, I can imagine.
537
00:24:25.030 --> 00:24:26.890
As this season comes to an end,
538
00:24:26.890 --> 00:24:31.890
the Federation is still reduced
in its power and influence,
539
00:24:32.060 --> 00:24:35.120
even with the Burn now resolved.
540
00:24:35.120 --> 00:24:38.972
So as we wrap up this
season of "The Ready Room,"
541
00:24:38.972 --> 00:24:41.910
can you tell us anything
about the next steps
542
00:24:41.910 --> 00:24:45.060
for the Federation as an organization,
543
00:24:45.060 --> 00:24:48.310
and where this leaves Discovery,
544
00:24:48.310 --> 00:24:51.083
as Discovery continues to
chart its own path forward?
545
00:24:52.074 --> 00:24:53.641
Tunde?
546
00:24:53.641 --> 00:24:55.416
Spoil it, spoil it, go for it!
547
00:24:55.416 --> 00:24:56.929
[all laughing]
548
00:24:56.929 --> 00:24:59.554
It's all you, Tunde.
549
00:24:59.554 --> 00:25:00.849
I mean-
It's all you, Michelle.
550
00:25:00.849 --> 00:25:02.851
This is all you.
It's all you, Sonequa.
551
00:25:02.851 --> 00:25:07.210
I believe so strongly in your ability
552
00:25:07.210 --> 00:25:11.420
to be delightfully vague
that there is no doubt
553
00:25:11.420 --> 00:25:14.320
in my mind that you can give
a satisfying vague answer
554
00:25:14.320 --> 00:25:16.258
to this incredibly tough question.
555
00:25:16.258 --> 00:25:19.380
I will do my best, and then, you guys,
556
00:25:19.380 --> 00:25:21.483
please add in the vaguery.
557
00:25:22.552 --> 00:25:26.670
When we end the season, a
lot has been accomplished.
558
00:25:26.670 --> 00:25:30.380
Our heroes, led by
Burnham, have discovered
559
00:25:30.380 --> 00:25:31.810
the source of the Burn.
560
00:25:31.810 --> 00:25:34.320
They've been able to give those answers
561
00:25:34.320 --> 00:25:36.930
to everyone, and also, in the process,
562
00:25:36.930 --> 00:25:40.000
they've discovered this
massive source of dilithium.
563
00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:42.680
Which, we know from the very end,
564
00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:44.720
they are about to head off on a journey
565
00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:46.490
and start delivering that.
566
00:25:46.490 --> 00:25:49.551
So certainly, I think,
by the end of the season,
567
00:25:49.551 --> 00:25:51.770
the Federation is in much better shape
568
00:25:51.770 --> 00:25:53.330
because of our heroes' journey
569
00:25:53.330 --> 00:25:54.690
than it was in the very beginning.
570
00:25:54.690 --> 00:25:57.010
But I think there's
still a long ways to go.
571
00:25:57.010 --> 00:26:00.220
And certainly, rebuilding the Federation
572
00:26:00.220 --> 00:26:03.050
and finding out what
the Federation is anew,
573
00:26:03.050 --> 00:26:05.900
is not something that is
accomplished in one season.
574
00:26:05.900 --> 00:26:09.150
As we know from the end, when
Burnham is taking the crew
575
00:26:09.150 --> 00:26:13.510
to start this journey,
there's work to be done,
576
00:26:13.510 --> 00:26:16.750
and I'm confident that
they will do that work.
577
00:26:16.750 --> 00:26:19.890
I'm confident that they will
find their way together,
578
00:26:19.890 --> 00:26:22.920
and I'm confidant that I
can't tell you more than that,
579
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:24.770
because then that would be a spoiler.
580
00:26:25.660 --> 00:26:29.367
But I can say, 'cause
you've already seen it,
581
00:26:29.367 --> 00:26:34.367
that the Federation is
in much better shape.
582
00:26:34.550 --> 00:26:35.633
There is a ways to go,
583
00:26:38.492 --> 00:26:40.466
but we've got Burnham at the helm,
584
00:26:40.466 --> 00:26:43.280
and an awesome crew, and a team of people,
585
00:26:43.280 --> 00:26:46.560
so they'll get on it,
they'll do some stuff.
586
00:26:46.560 --> 00:26:48.390
That was delightfully vague.
587
00:26:48.390 --> 00:26:50.740
Thank you very much.
588
00:26:50.740 --> 00:26:54.170
This has been an amazing
season of Star Trek: Discovery,
589
00:26:54.170 --> 00:26:57.754
and it has been such a
privilege and such a pleasure
590
00:26:57.754 --> 00:27:01.160
to speak with you all about it today.
591
00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:04.610
And also, just that I've
gotten to spend 13 hours
592
00:27:04.610 --> 00:27:09.070
this season just enjoying these adventures
593
00:27:09.070 --> 00:27:10.750
and these characters.
594
00:27:10.750 --> 00:27:14.430
I am so excited for Season
4. And I hope you all
595
00:27:14.430 --> 00:27:19.430
will come back to talk about
it sometime in the mysterious,
596
00:27:19.970 --> 00:27:21.902
but hopefully not too far distant, future.
597
00:27:21.902 --> 00:27:24.900
[laughs] Thank you so
much for having us, Wil.
598
00:27:24.900 --> 00:27:25.963
This was amazing.
599
00:27:27.360 --> 00:27:28.450
Thank you.
600
00:27:28.450 --> 00:27:29.533
Thanks, Wil.
601
00:27:44.580 --> 00:27:46.477
Of course, this being the final episode
602
00:27:46.477 --> 00:27:48.420
of Star Trek: Discovery, Season 3,
603
00:27:48.420 --> 00:27:50.740
we don't have an exclusive
clip for next week's episode
604
00:27:50.740 --> 00:27:52.220
because it does not exist.
605
00:27:52.220 --> 00:27:55.600
But we do have one more surprise for you.
606
00:27:55.600 --> 00:27:58.130
Let's take a look at our very last
607
00:27:58.130 --> 00:28:01.224
behind-the-scenes video
for this season. Enjoy!
608
00:28:01.224 --> 00:28:02.174
[ship whirring]
609
00:28:17.886 --> 00:28:20.108
[ship whirring]
610
00:28:36.870 --> 00:28:38.162
[ship whirring]
611
00:28:57.126 --> 00:28:59.418
[ships whirring]
612
00:29:37.744 --> 00:29:40.906
[ship buzzing]
613
00:29:44.341 --> 00:29:45.812
[Detmer] Full manual control.
614
00:29:45.812 --> 00:29:46.662
[electronic whirring]
615
00:29:51.513 --> 00:29:52.346
What are you doing?
616
00:29:52.346 --> 00:29:53.488
This is how I learned to fly.
617
00:29:54.821 --> 00:29:57.836
[photons firing]
618
00:30:28.914 --> 00:30:29.747
Woo!
619
00:30:54.970 --> 00:30:56.750
Thank you all so much for joining us here
620
00:30:56.750 --> 00:30:58.402
in "The Ready Room." Not just this week,
621
00:30:58.402 --> 00:31:00.050
but all season long.
622
00:31:00.050 --> 00:31:02.610
And a very special thank you
to everyone behind the scenes,
623
00:31:02.610 --> 00:31:04.770
all those people who you don't see
624
00:31:04.770 --> 00:31:06.170
who spend a lot of time every week
625
00:31:06.170 --> 00:31:07.960
making me look like I know what I'm doing.
626
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:09.410
I'm really grateful for it.
627
00:31:09.410 --> 00:31:11.700
None of this happens in a vacuum.
628
00:31:11.700 --> 00:31:14.410
We hope you have enjoyed this
behind-the-scenes journey
629
00:31:14.410 --> 00:31:17.030
into the making of Star
Trek: Discovery Season 3,
630
00:31:17.030 --> 00:31:20.110
and that we will see
you again for Season 4.
631
00:31:20.110 --> 00:31:22.570
Until then, I'm Wil Wheaton.
632
00:31:22.570 --> 00:31:24.746
Live long and prosper.