WEBVTT
1
00:00:04.690 --> 00:00:05.523
Hey, nerds!
2
00:00:05.523 --> 00:00:08.140
I'm Wil Wheaton and this
is "The Ready Room."
3
00:00:08.140 --> 00:00:10.060
Your official behind-the-scenes hub,
4
00:00:10.060 --> 00:00:12.280
for all things Star Trek Universe.
5
00:00:12.280 --> 00:00:14.230
As the title of this week's episode
6
00:00:14.230 --> 00:00:16.440
of Star Trek: Discovery suggests,
7
00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:19.550
"Terra Firma, Part One"
took us back in time
8
00:00:19.550 --> 00:00:22.280
to a certain evil parallel universe.
9
00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:24.010
That's right, if you have no recollection
10
00:00:24.010 --> 00:00:26.840
of seeing black and gold
uniforms or Kasseelian opera
11
00:00:26.840 --> 00:00:30.870
in this episode, then that
means you have veered off course
12
00:00:30.870 --> 00:00:32.860
into spoiler territory.
13
00:00:32.860 --> 00:00:33.740
What are you doing?
14
00:00:33.740 --> 00:00:35.920
Turn around and watch the new episode,
15
00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:39.360
then come back and join us
right here for all the details.
16
00:00:39.360 --> 00:00:41.580
You will definitely want
to stick around too,
17
00:00:41.580 --> 00:00:44.080
because today we have a packed house.
18
00:00:44.080 --> 00:00:47.390
U.S.S. Discovery's bridge crew
cast is reporting for duty
19
00:00:47.390 --> 00:00:48.860
right here in "The Ready Room"
20
00:00:48.860 --> 00:00:51.260
to talk about reprising
their sinister counterparts
21
00:00:51.260 --> 00:00:52.650
for the latest episode.
22
00:00:52.650 --> 00:00:56.290
And while the Mirror Universe
may feel like opposite land,
23
00:00:56.290 --> 00:00:57.530
don't think for a moment
24
00:00:57.530 --> 00:00:59.230
that we don't have an exclusive clip
25
00:00:59.230 --> 00:01:01.960
from next week's episode
of Star Trek: Discovery
26
00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:02.870
to show you.
27
00:01:02.870 --> 00:01:05.720
I have the sneaking suspicion,
it may be a "Part Two."
28
00:01:05.720 --> 00:01:07.280
Of course, before we get to any of that,
29
00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:09.530
we have a brand new "Moments
of Discovery" queued up
30
00:01:09.530 --> 00:01:13.110
to tell us more about Philippa
Georgiou's unexpected return
31
00:01:13.110 --> 00:01:14.490
to the Terran empire.
32
00:01:14.490 --> 00:01:17.520
Control room, engage.
33
00:01:17.520 --> 00:01:19.900
Maybe we'll find something
that can help you.
34
00:01:19.900 --> 00:01:21.383
Enough of your help.
35
00:01:22.380 --> 00:01:25.455
Your help is useless.
36
00:01:25.455 --> 00:01:29.372
[swords slashing and clanging]
37
00:01:32.250 --> 00:01:35.020
When she came over, she
didn't come willingly.
38
00:01:35.020 --> 00:01:36.610
She was dragged by Burnham.
39
00:01:36.610 --> 00:01:41.440
And she has changed a lot
in her time in our universe.
40
00:01:41.440 --> 00:01:42.720
But we would only be able to see that
41
00:01:42.720 --> 00:01:43.620
by taking her back there,
42
00:01:43.620 --> 00:01:46.420
and by allowing her to
experience that change, as well.
43
00:01:46.420 --> 00:01:49.950
Lead me to my death, Angel Michael.
44
00:01:53.110 --> 00:01:54.670
[Anthony] When we heard
about it, we're like, how?
45
00:01:54.670 --> 00:01:57.210
We thought we resolved all
that stuff with Georgiou.
46
00:01:57.210 --> 00:01:59.170
Yeah, I died before in
the Mirror Universe.
47
00:01:59.170 --> 00:02:00.160
So, I get to be there again?
48
00:02:00.160 --> 00:02:01.261
Okay, uh, why?
49
00:02:06.910 --> 00:02:08.730
The Mirror Universe is a blast.
50
00:02:08.730 --> 00:02:09.563
It's so fun
51
00:02:09.563 --> 00:02:11.640
to get to see the
characters we know and love
52
00:02:11.640 --> 00:02:13.490
playing completely different characters.
53
00:02:13.490 --> 00:02:15.235
To the Empire.
54
00:02:15.235 --> 00:02:18.112
[Crowd] Long live her Imperial Majesty,
55
00:02:18.112 --> 00:02:20.610
Emperor Philippa Georgiou.
56
00:02:20.610 --> 00:02:22.520
How they've written Georgiou's journey
57
00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:24.100
and Georgiou's relationship with Michael,
58
00:02:24.100 --> 00:02:26.050
it's really, really special.
59
00:02:26.050 --> 00:02:28.730
It's just another example of
our writers just taking things,
60
00:02:28.730 --> 00:02:31.270
and just making them
go as deep as possible.
61
00:02:31.270 --> 00:02:32.700
I've missed you.
62
00:02:32.700 --> 00:02:34.010
How long has it been?
63
00:02:34.010 --> 00:02:35.030
Six months?
64
00:02:35.030 --> 00:02:37.400
Feels like much longer.
65
00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:38.460
Yes.
66
00:02:38.460 --> 00:02:39.293
And then to get to do
67
00:02:39.293 --> 00:02:43.350
that whole like little
performance thing, was really fun.
68
00:02:43.350 --> 00:02:45.670
[Michelle] It's an incredible,
incredible performance.
69
00:02:45.670 --> 00:02:48.280
We have aerialists come in, we have music.
70
00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:51.830
It took over a day to shoot,
like just that one sequence.
71
00:02:51.830 --> 00:02:54.130
The way we staged it, I was like,
72
00:02:54.130 --> 00:02:55.970
there in front of all my friends,
73
00:02:55.970 --> 00:02:57.247
you know gettin' to be like
74
00:02:57.247 --> 00:03:00.680
the theatrical narrator
person speaking in verse.
75
00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:04.280
A then unknown, a peasant
girl, did vanquish them
76
00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:05.423
and saved the world.
77
00:03:06.630 --> 00:03:08.780
It's really meant to tell the history
78
00:03:08.780 --> 00:03:10.717
of Georgiou's rise to power,
79
00:03:10.717 --> 00:03:12.180
and it's meant to celebrate her.
80
00:03:12.180 --> 00:03:14.220
And the performance, itself,
81
00:03:14.220 --> 00:03:15.745
it's ribbons to represent blood.
82
00:03:15.745 --> 00:03:16.880
It's all metaphor.
83
00:03:16.880 --> 00:03:19.510
But for Georgiou watching that,
84
00:03:19.510 --> 00:03:20.960
I think the thing that's important
85
00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:22.600
is she's watching her history,
86
00:03:22.600 --> 00:03:23.800
and the history that's told
87
00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:25.080
of all the lands that she's conquered,
88
00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:26.150
and the people that she's killed.
89
00:03:26.150 --> 00:03:30.230
And for Georgiou, as
she is now in Season 3,
90
00:03:30.230 --> 00:03:33.360
having spent all of this time
with our crew on Discovery
91
00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:35.330
and particularly her
relationship with Burnham,
92
00:03:35.330 --> 00:03:37.630
it all rings a bit hollow now.
93
00:03:37.630 --> 00:03:40.170
It's not the celebration
that it would have been
94
00:03:40.170 --> 00:03:42.350
back when she was still
living in the Mirror Universe.
95
00:03:42.350 --> 00:03:44.350
This thing that should be celebratory
96
00:03:44.350 --> 00:03:47.640
is actually a measure of
this person that she was,
97
00:03:47.640 --> 00:03:49.590
that she doesn't quite
connect with anymore.
98
00:03:49.590 --> 00:03:50.580
I think that's really cool
99
00:03:50.580 --> 00:03:53.497
to get to experience that with her.
100
00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:58.950
I am now joined by Star Trek: Discovery's
101
00:03:58.950 --> 00:04:01.310
intrepid bridge crew members,
102
00:04:01.310 --> 00:04:04.280
to talk about the latest
episode of Season 3.
103
00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:07.380
Please welcome Emily Coutts, Oyin Oladejo,
104
00:04:07.380 --> 00:04:11.340
Patrick Kwok-Choon, Ronnie
Rowe, Jr., and Sara Mitich.
105
00:04:11.340 --> 00:04:13.360
Thanks for stopping by everyone.
106
00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:14.829
It's great to see you today.
107
00:04:14.829 --> 00:04:15.662
Hello.
108
00:04:15.662 --> 00:04:16.495
Hey.
109
00:04:16.495 --> 00:04:17.350
Thank you.
Hello.
110
00:04:17.350 --> 00:04:18.600
Thanks for having us, Wil.
111
00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:19.740
In our latest episode,
112
00:04:19.740 --> 00:04:23.170
you all got to go back
to the Mirror Universe.
113
00:04:23.170 --> 00:04:26.120
I think the Mirror Universe is great.
114
00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:28.650
I love everything about it.
115
00:04:28.650 --> 00:04:31.800
And I'm wondering if
y'all feel the same way.
116
00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:34.760
How fun is it to channel
basically the opposite
117
00:04:34.760 --> 00:04:37.500
of the characters you were cast to play,
118
00:04:37.500 --> 00:04:40.420
when you go into the Mirror Universe?
119
00:04:40.420 --> 00:04:41.820
Emily, let's start with you.
120
00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:43.553
It's so fun.
121
00:04:43.553 --> 00:04:45.770
It breaks up the season so nicely, too,
122
00:04:45.770 --> 00:04:47.510
'cause we all just get new
costumes and new makeup
123
00:04:47.510 --> 00:04:49.000
and new looks.
124
00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:50.570
So it's like very fun in that way.
125
00:04:50.570 --> 00:04:52.748
And I think like jumping
back to it again this season
126
00:04:52.748 --> 00:04:55.310
was really great because we had more time
127
00:04:55.310 --> 00:04:58.640
to sort of flesh out what
that world actually is,
128
00:04:58.640 --> 00:05:00.730
versus in Season 1 it felt very quick.
129
00:05:00.730 --> 00:05:02.870
So, I remember talking to Sonequa a lot
130
00:05:02.870 --> 00:05:04.680
about like, what would this world
131
00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:06.370
actually be like to live in?
132
00:05:06.370 --> 00:05:08.970
To be truly evil, to
be trained to be evil,
133
00:05:08.970 --> 00:05:11.540
to like you know-- do we have impulses
134
00:05:11.540 --> 00:05:15.119
towards good that we
have to steer away from?
135
00:05:15.119 --> 00:05:18.600
And where do our loyalties really lie?
136
00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:21.500
And it was fun to just
jump back in a second time
137
00:05:21.500 --> 00:05:23.640
to ask those questions again,
138
00:05:23.640 --> 00:05:26.650
and kind of make things
more clear for ourselves.
139
00:05:26.650 --> 00:05:30.200
Plus it's just fun to be
bad ass, and feel bad ass,
140
00:05:30.200 --> 00:05:33.930
and wear really cool things
[chuckles] and walk around.
141
00:05:33.930 --> 00:05:35.940
And yeah, it's a very fun
142
00:05:35.940 --> 00:05:38.180
universe to be a part of, for sure.
143
00:05:38.180 --> 00:05:40.250
I occasionally have the
privilege of playing a villain.
144
00:05:40.250 --> 00:05:42.810
And I have really embraced that idea
145
00:05:42.810 --> 00:05:45.130
that the villain is the
hero of their story.
146
00:05:45.130 --> 00:05:47.950
And the idea that someone
in the Mirror Universe
147
00:05:47.950 --> 00:05:50.440
would have a good impulse
that they have to tamp down
148
00:05:50.440 --> 00:05:52.620
the way we tamp down our bad impulses,
149
00:05:52.620 --> 00:05:54.470
is incredibly interesting to me,
150
00:05:54.470 --> 00:05:56.840
and adds a layer to your performance
151
00:05:56.840 --> 00:06:00.550
that I wanna go back and re-experience,
152
00:06:00.550 --> 00:06:02.110
to look for those moments.
153
00:06:02.110 --> 00:06:04.080
That is, I love that choice.
154
00:06:04.080 --> 00:06:06.030
That's really, really cool.
155
00:06:06.030 --> 00:06:08.480
And I think it is in
those-- the smallest moments
156
00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.720
where you really see, one
eye-look across the room
157
00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:13.480
to the wrong person or to the right person
158
00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:15.260
can mean so much in that universe.
159
00:06:15.260 --> 00:06:16.410
It's all unspoken.
160
00:06:16.410 --> 00:06:19.500
It's all kinda creepy and uncomfortable.
161
00:06:19.500 --> 00:06:21.040
[Wil] Ronnie.
162
00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:22.673
I love playing a bad guy.
163
00:06:24.082 --> 00:06:26.360
So, it's therapeutic, to
be quite honest, you know.
164
00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:29.250
'Cause we try so hard to be good people
165
00:06:29.250 --> 00:06:32.417
in regular life that when
you get to be a bad person,
166
00:06:32.417 --> 00:06:37.417
it's refreshing, because
it's in a safe space to play.
167
00:06:38.853 --> 00:06:40.430
But yeah, it was a lot of fun.
168
00:06:40.430 --> 00:06:41.263
Patrick.
169
00:06:41.263 --> 00:06:42.110
It was really lovely
170
00:06:42.110 --> 00:06:44.170
to dive into the psychology
of what it would mean
171
00:06:44.170 --> 00:06:46.280
to be Terran in the Mirror Universe.
172
00:06:46.280 --> 00:06:48.140
Like what did it mean
to grow up in a society
173
00:06:48.140 --> 00:06:51.168
where conquest is king,
where power is everything.
174
00:06:51.168 --> 00:06:53.623
Showing a sign of weakness
is truly weakness.
175
00:06:54.700 --> 00:06:56.430
And I think one of the favorite lines
176
00:06:56.430 --> 00:07:01.110
that Rhys gets to give is
when he's fighting Owo.
177
00:07:01.110 --> 00:07:04.520
And he says, "You'll need a
closed casket after I'm done."
178
00:07:04.520 --> 00:07:05.353
Yeah.
179
00:07:05.353 --> 00:07:06.810
For me as the artist, it's kind of like,
180
00:07:06.810 --> 00:07:08.260
well that wasn't a war cry.
181
00:07:08.260 --> 00:07:09.720
It's not an angry threat.
182
00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:13.640
It's just a deep, simple truth,
like a cold-blooded truth,
183
00:07:13.640 --> 00:07:16.040
that after I'm done carving you up,
184
00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:18.420
you'll need a closed casket.
185
00:07:18.420 --> 00:07:20.060
And to sit in that truth,
186
00:07:20.060 --> 00:07:23.400
it's kind of like such juicy
material for any actor to play.
187
00:07:23.400 --> 00:07:24.970
And to find that, it's just really lucky.
188
00:07:24.970 --> 00:07:27.000
So it's-- Mirror University is a gift.
189
00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:28.160
On Next Generation,
190
00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:29.960
the closest I got to go
to the Mirror Universe,
191
00:07:29.960 --> 00:07:31.710
was in "Yesterday's Enterprise,"
192
00:07:31.710 --> 00:07:33.650
where we did a parallel
universe kind of thing.
193
00:07:33.650 --> 00:07:35.410
And our costumes were
just slightly different.
194
00:07:35.410 --> 00:07:39.210
I wore an engineering costume
instead of a command costume.
195
00:07:39.210 --> 00:07:42.200
And just that small change
was really fun for me.
196
00:07:42.200 --> 00:07:44.480
And I agree with what you said, Patrick,
197
00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:47.490
that other universe was very much a gift.
198
00:07:47.490 --> 00:07:50.780
Let's just stay on the
Mirror Universe costumes
199
00:07:50.780 --> 00:07:54.382
for just a real quick minute,
'cause they're so cool.
200
00:07:54.382 --> 00:07:55.280
Oh, yeah.
201
00:07:55.280 --> 00:07:57.510
I would imagine, much in the way
202
00:07:57.510 --> 00:08:00.000
that prosthesis gives
some actors permission
203
00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:03.040
to like really lean into
being Klingon, right?
204
00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:05.160
Those uniforms, I imagine,
205
00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:08.250
would give you permission
to really be Terrran.
206
00:08:08.250 --> 00:08:10.100
Is my instinct correct there?
207
00:08:10.100 --> 00:08:11.030
Absolutely.
Totally.
208
00:08:11.030 --> 00:08:15.200
The boots go to the top of your thigh.
209
00:08:15.200 --> 00:08:16.710
Aw, man!
210
00:08:16.710 --> 00:08:18.460
Just the act of like pulling on
211
00:08:18.460 --> 00:08:22.390
like a latex-y, leather boot everyday,
212
00:08:22.390 --> 00:08:23.620
and then starting to walk in it,
213
00:08:23.620 --> 00:08:25.333
you just walk differently, you know.
214
00:08:25.333 --> 00:08:28.480
It just, it's really a
very powerful feeling.
215
00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:31.990
The fact that you have a
phaser on you all the time,
216
00:08:31.990 --> 00:08:34.110
you know?
And a knife.
217
00:08:34.110 --> 00:08:37.290
Yeah, like you're ready,
you're equipped to kill,
218
00:08:37.290 --> 00:08:39.469
at all times.
219
00:08:39.469 --> 00:08:40.600
Yeah, and I don't think
220
00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:42.430
it was only the costumes that help,
221
00:08:42.430 --> 00:08:44.560
but a lot of us actually
changed our hairstyle
222
00:08:44.560 --> 00:08:46.520
or added some makeup.
Yeah.
223
00:08:46.520 --> 00:08:50.360
Emperor Georgiou says Rhys is
trying to gain dominion title
224
00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:51.560
over the red light district.
225
00:08:51.560 --> 00:08:53.227
So immediately my mind went into like,
226
00:08:53.227 --> 00:08:56.610
"Oh, Rhys definitely dabbles
in some illicit substances,
227
00:08:56.610 --> 00:08:58.940
or like futuristic narcotics."
228
00:08:58.940 --> 00:09:01.030
So I wanted to look a little strung out,
229
00:09:01.030 --> 00:09:03.120
and a little like gaunt and skeletal.
230
00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:04.253
But a lot of us had-
Aw, that's great.
231
00:09:04.253 --> 00:09:06.810
different types of makeup
that we're putting on,
232
00:09:06.810 --> 00:09:09.020
lipstick or hairstyles.
233
00:09:09.020 --> 00:09:11.810
So all of that being
around it really helped us
234
00:09:11.810 --> 00:09:13.540
put ourselves into the world.
235
00:09:13.540 --> 00:09:15.160
So it was lovely.
236
00:09:15.160 --> 00:09:18.440
Patrick and Oyin, you
have this awesome duel
237
00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:21.701
to almost-the-death in this episode.
238
00:09:21.701 --> 00:09:22.534
[laughing]
239
00:09:22.534 --> 00:09:23.430
Did you do any training
240
00:09:23.430 --> 00:09:25.690
with Stunt Coordinator, Chris McGuire,
241
00:09:25.690 --> 00:09:29.400
to talk about what this
was going to look like?
242
00:09:29.400 --> 00:09:31.530
And how did this fight
sequence come together?
243
00:09:31.530 --> 00:09:33.530
Well, first off this fight
wouldn't have been possible
244
00:09:33.530 --> 00:09:36.800
without our incredible
showrunner, Michelle Paradise.
245
00:09:36.800 --> 00:09:39.930
Back in 2018, at Star Trek Las Vegas,
246
00:09:39.930 --> 00:09:42.370
the entire bridge crew was
doing a panel discussion,
247
00:09:42.370 --> 00:09:43.880
and Oyin and I both indicated
248
00:09:43.880 --> 00:09:46.610
that we wanted to do more
fighting on Discovery.
249
00:09:46.610 --> 00:09:47.970
And she was in the audience,
250
00:09:47.970 --> 00:09:49.630
she told us she made a mental note of it.
251
00:09:49.630 --> 00:09:51.130
And this fight is because of that.
252
00:09:51.130 --> 00:09:55.450
Yes, thank you to Michelle
for listening to us.
253
00:09:55.450 --> 00:09:58.060
Yes, we did do training
with Chris and his team.
254
00:09:58.060 --> 00:10:01.160
And the wonderful thing is they
worked with us individually
255
00:10:01.160 --> 00:10:06.060
to help us bring our character out.
256
00:10:06.060 --> 00:10:08.760
And what was fun about it was,
257
00:10:08.760 --> 00:10:10.510
I mean, we all move differently.
258
00:10:10.510 --> 00:10:13.720
Like we all have our own
physical way of moving.
259
00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:17.400
And in fights, we will have
our own way of fighting too.
260
00:10:17.400 --> 00:10:19.600
And so I recognize my limits
261
00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:21.520
in certain punches and certain kicks,
262
00:10:21.520 --> 00:10:24.283
but they molded it in order to fit me,
263
00:10:25.435 --> 00:10:29.530
and made my own fighting
very fluid and seamless.
264
00:10:29.530 --> 00:10:32.620
So we had so, so much fun.
265
00:10:32.620 --> 00:10:35.641
I'm grateful that had given
me a chance to do that.
266
00:10:35.641 --> 00:10:36.474
Enough!
267
00:10:37.760 --> 00:10:42.760
You carried Mirror Owo with this
268
00:10:42.910 --> 00:10:44.668
almost predatory,
269
00:10:44.668 --> 00:10:48.520
like I am ready to pounce at any moment
270
00:10:48.520 --> 00:10:50.690
when my Emperor is threatened.
271
00:10:50.690 --> 00:10:52.680
So, I wanted you to talk a little bit
272
00:10:52.680 --> 00:10:55.140
about being her body guard.
273
00:10:55.140 --> 00:10:57.360
Was she one of those actors?
274
00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:00.450
Like I mean, maybe I'm the
only actor who feels this way.
275
00:11:00.450 --> 00:11:02.040
Every now and then, I work with an actor
276
00:11:02.040 --> 00:11:03.303
who just makes me better.
277
00:11:04.350 --> 00:11:06.230
Like I don't have to work as hard,
278
00:11:06.230 --> 00:11:09.370
or I don't have to be as unsure of myself.
279
00:11:09.370 --> 00:11:11.460
I can like really get out of my way,
280
00:11:11.460 --> 00:11:13.470
when I am sharing the scene with somebody
281
00:11:13.470 --> 00:11:15.760
who I feel just like really kills it.
282
00:11:15.760 --> 00:11:17.360
Did you have a similar level
283
00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:19.630
of security and experience with her?
284
00:11:19.630 --> 00:11:22.473
Oh yes, just one particular moment.
285
00:11:23.866 --> 00:11:27.670
We were on the bridge and she was leaving,
286
00:11:27.670 --> 00:11:30.220
and I stepped aside, and she passed me,
287
00:11:30.220 --> 00:11:32.840
and, we were filming,
and she turned to me.
288
00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:35.480
She says, "You should bow in this moment."
289
00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:39.400
So she's constantly helping
you fine tune your character.
290
00:11:39.400 --> 00:11:41.650
In that moment, the Emperor passes me by,
291
00:11:41.650 --> 00:11:43.150
yes, I should bow.
292
00:11:43.150 --> 00:11:45.967
But it didn't clue into me,
but she suddenly tosses,
293
00:11:45.967 --> 00:11:46.900
"You should bow."
294
00:11:46.900 --> 00:11:49.410
And immediately, just
an instant, immediately,
295
00:11:49.410 --> 00:11:51.880
you wanted to serve this woman.
296
00:11:51.880 --> 00:11:54.530
You just wanted to serve her.
297
00:11:54.530 --> 00:11:58.755
Yeah, Michelle is, she's a
298
00:11:58.755 --> 00:12:00.054
tiny giant.
299
00:12:00.054 --> 00:12:01.049
I don't know if I can say that,
300
00:12:01.049 --> 00:12:02.173
but she's a tiny giant.
301
00:12:02.173 --> 00:12:03.860
That is the perfect way to describe her.
302
00:12:03.860 --> 00:12:05.260
She's probably going
to find me and kill me,
303
00:12:05.260 --> 00:12:06.472
after she hears that.
304
00:12:06.472 --> 00:12:08.140
[laughing]
305
00:12:08.140 --> 00:12:10.270
Emily, in the first half of this season,
306
00:12:10.270 --> 00:12:13.502
we got to see a lot of internal struggle
307
00:12:13.502 --> 00:12:18.501
happening with Detmer as she is
308
00:12:18.501 --> 00:12:20.334
sort of adapting
309
00:12:20.334 --> 00:12:21.610
to this new timeline,
310
00:12:21.610 --> 00:12:24.640
and adapting to a fair amount
311
00:12:26.493 --> 00:12:28.230
of really difficult experiences.
312
00:12:28.230 --> 00:12:30.910
What kind of conversations did you have
313
00:12:30.910 --> 00:12:33.550
with the showrunners and the writers
314
00:12:33.550 --> 00:12:36.923
while her arc this season
was being developed?
315
00:12:38.900 --> 00:12:40.820
Yeah, I sat down with Michelle
316
00:12:41.750 --> 00:12:43.630
before we started shooting the season,
317
00:12:43.630 --> 00:12:46.350
and we had brunch and
she brought up the fact
318
00:12:46.350 --> 00:12:49.150
that we were going to
explore this, this season,
319
00:12:49.150 --> 00:12:50.750
and that Detmer was going to be struggling
320
00:12:50.750 --> 00:12:55.240
a bit more than usual, and sort
of have a weight and a guilt
321
00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:57.500
that she's carrying around for, I think
322
00:12:57.500 --> 00:12:59.630
a combination of the
Battle of the Binary Stars
323
00:12:59.630 --> 00:13:03.200
and, you know, a rocky
landing into the future.
324
00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.410
I flew us into the future.
325
00:13:05.410 --> 00:13:06.680
I landed this ship.
326
00:13:06.680 --> 00:13:08.030
I landed Discovery.
327
00:13:08.030 --> 00:13:10.220
Yes, and we barely survived.
328
00:13:10.220 --> 00:13:11.840
Oh, my God! Stop it!
329
00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:15.150
It was really cool exploring that,
330
00:13:15.150 --> 00:13:17.210
and I think at the end of Season 2,
331
00:13:17.210 --> 00:13:19.140
we all make this like choice.
332
00:13:19.140 --> 00:13:22.410
Yeah, let's go, let's,
you know, defend Starfleet
333
00:13:22.410 --> 00:13:25.700
and be these people that
we've always wanted to be.
334
00:13:25.700 --> 00:13:28.900
But the decision is like a lot heavier
335
00:13:28.900 --> 00:13:33.050
than I think we intended, both
as actors and as characters.
336
00:13:33.050 --> 00:13:37.120
Like when you really think
about what that costs someone,
337
00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:39.452
I'm glad they didn't take that lightly.
338
00:13:39.452 --> 00:13:40.970
When doing this, you know,
339
00:13:40.970 --> 00:13:44.330
we can do those iPad
goodbyes to our friends,
340
00:13:44.330 --> 00:13:45.960
and then kind of be like, "Oh, whatever."
341
00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:47.360
We're you know, onto the next thing.
342
00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:50.423
But to leave family and
friends, I think it costs a lot,
343
00:13:51.429 --> 00:13:53.410
and she she's very hard on herself.
344
00:13:53.410 --> 00:13:55.930
So yeah, it was interesting.
345
00:13:55.930 --> 00:13:58.970
I weirdly find a lot of myself in Detmer,
346
00:13:58.970 --> 00:14:01.640
and I'm like, "Hey, have
you guys been watching me?
347
00:14:01.640 --> 00:14:03.841
Do you guys know me better
than I know myself?"
348
00:14:03.841 --> 00:14:04.920
[laughing]
349
00:14:04.920 --> 00:14:07.310
Ronnie, now that the
bridge crew's on its own
350
00:14:07.310 --> 00:14:11.500
in the future, do you
think that that experience
351
00:14:11.500 --> 00:14:15.394
has brought the crew closer together?
352
00:14:15.394 --> 00:14:18.030
And do you think that they see themselves
353
00:14:18.030 --> 00:14:20.573
really as a family at this point?
354
00:14:21.670 --> 00:14:25.580
100%, I feel they've gotten closer
355
00:14:25.580 --> 00:14:28.340
and they definitely feel like a family.
356
00:14:28.340 --> 00:14:31.410
I think what's very
interesting is the parallel
357
00:14:31.410 --> 00:14:36.180
of the Star Trek story
and just us being on set.
358
00:14:36.180 --> 00:14:38.160
Because I think everybody was pretty cool,
359
00:14:38.160 --> 00:14:40.360
you know, like starting off with Season 1.
360
00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:43.130
But as the seasons have progressed,
361
00:14:43.130 --> 00:14:47.680
we've manifested into like
this weird little family.
362
00:14:47.680 --> 00:14:49.570
It's pretty awesome you know,
363
00:14:49.570 --> 00:14:52.940
because you notice little
quirks about people.
364
00:14:52.940 --> 00:14:56.550
I remember one time we were
even shooting with Tunde,
365
00:14:56.550 --> 00:14:59.547
and he's like, "Man, I feel a
little intimidated right now."
366
00:14:59.547 --> 00:15:00.730
And we were like, "Why, what's up?"
367
00:15:00.730 --> 00:15:01.563
And he's like,
368
00:15:01.563 --> 00:15:03.060
"You guys have like your
own little language.
369
00:15:03.060 --> 00:15:06.480
You guys are just firing
on different cylinders."
370
00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:09.790
And I feel like that's our parallel,
371
00:15:09.790 --> 00:15:14.270
our reality and our television reality.
372
00:15:14.270 --> 00:15:16.360
I feel they go hand in hand.
373
00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:18.170
A friend of mine directed an episode of ER
374
00:15:18.170 --> 00:15:19.140
a hundred million years ago
375
00:15:19.140 --> 00:15:21.510
and he said that they
went in to set up a shot
376
00:15:21.510 --> 00:15:25.680
and all of the actors
knew exactly where to go,
377
00:15:25.680 --> 00:15:26.980
what equipment to get, how--
378
00:15:26.980 --> 00:15:29.240
like they knew how to do
this actual medical procedure
379
00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:30.260
because they'd done it so many times.
380
00:15:30.260 --> 00:15:31.610
And he said, as a director,
381
00:15:31.610 --> 00:15:33.470
his job was just get out of the way,
382
00:15:33.470 --> 00:15:35.880
and let them do the thing that
they've done a whole bunch.
383
00:15:35.880 --> 00:15:40.200
Do you feel like you have
like dominion over the bridge?
384
00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:43.280
Is the bridge like y'alls space
385
00:15:43.280 --> 00:15:45.720
and like now you have that shorthand?
386
00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:47.950
There are things that you just do
387
00:15:47.950 --> 00:15:49.570
that exist on the bridge.
388
00:15:49.570 --> 00:15:51.160
Has that happened?
389
00:15:51.160 --> 00:15:52.490
I think definitely.
390
00:15:52.490 --> 00:15:54.790
I think you know who
you're throwing looks to.
391
00:15:55.870 --> 00:15:58.130
Like, yeah definitely, definitely.
392
00:15:58.130 --> 00:15:59.950
There's a song and dance and I think like,
393
00:15:59.950 --> 00:16:01.930
Em and Owo will have their little thing
394
00:16:01.930 --> 00:16:03.930
that they always do.
395
00:16:03.930 --> 00:16:07.021
You know, me and Sara will do a thing.
396
00:16:07.021 --> 00:16:08.100
Like we'll always--
397
00:16:08.100 --> 00:16:10.460
everybody's shooting shots at everybody.
398
00:16:10.460 --> 00:16:13.270
We just know how to make
everybody involved in.
399
00:16:13.270 --> 00:16:16.520
And it's such a collaborative
thing, it's pretty cool.
400
00:16:16.520 --> 00:16:19.370
Sara, I see you nodding along
rather enthusiastically.
401
00:16:19.370 --> 00:16:20.800
Do you have something to add?
402
00:16:20.800 --> 00:16:24.470
Oh, I mean, Ronnie's and mine looks.
403
00:16:24.470 --> 00:16:27.680
It's a whole story of its own. [laughing]
404
00:16:27.680 --> 00:16:31.100
Especially Season 1, when
we would be laughing so hard
405
00:16:31.100 --> 00:16:33.660
that my lips would be
coming off, as Airiam.
406
00:16:33.660 --> 00:16:34.802
It was--
Oh, yeah.
407
00:16:35.719 --> 00:16:36.552
Yeah.
408
00:16:39.014 --> 00:16:42.038
I forgot, was this the movement?
409
00:16:42.038 --> 00:16:42.871
This thing, right here?
410
00:16:43.945 --> 00:16:46.475
Yeah, oh man.
411
00:16:46.475 --> 00:16:47.490
I forgot that.
412
00:16:47.490 --> 00:16:48.910
Yes, Sara.
413
00:16:48.910 --> 00:16:53.388
Seeing all of you do this
at exactly the same time,
414
00:16:53.388 --> 00:16:56.120
is the highlight of this episode for me.
415
00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:58.140
I hope it makes the thumbnail.
416
00:16:58.140 --> 00:17:00.700
Let's talk a little bit about Airiam.
417
00:17:00.700 --> 00:17:03.220
Sara, you played Airiam in Season 1,
418
00:17:03.220 --> 00:17:06.920
and now you are back playing Nilsson.
419
00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:09.897
So I want to know about the differences
420
00:17:09.897 --> 00:17:14.897
between playing a cyborg
and playing a human.
421
00:17:15.540 --> 00:17:19.690
And how different is
it on the set for you?
422
00:17:19.690 --> 00:17:22.330
Being, you know, in each
different character?
423
00:17:22.330 --> 00:17:25.563
Yeah, Airiam, I loved playing Airiam.
424
00:17:26.650 --> 00:17:28.560
I'd never dived into prosthetics before.
425
00:17:28.560 --> 00:17:29.700
This was my first time.
426
00:17:29.700 --> 00:17:33.750
And as an actor, I think
something that we all love doing
427
00:17:33.750 --> 00:17:37.130
is doing characters that are
completely different from us.
428
00:17:37.130 --> 00:17:38.890
It's one reason why we love Mirror,
429
00:17:38.890 --> 00:17:42.230
and Airiam, for me was like
the complete transformation,
430
00:17:42.230 --> 00:17:45.540
in terms of creating a physical life,
431
00:17:45.540 --> 00:17:48.370
learning how to act with the prosthetic,
432
00:17:48.370 --> 00:17:49.750
through the prosthetic,
433
00:17:49.750 --> 00:17:54.750
while still trying to find some
uniqueness and personality,
434
00:17:55.080 --> 00:17:59.810
as much as I could within the
constraints of who she was.
435
00:17:59.810 --> 00:18:01.660
That was awesome.
436
00:18:01.660 --> 00:18:03.580
It was so great.
437
00:18:03.580 --> 00:18:05.000
Nilsson is also so great.
438
00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:06.990
It's just so different, right?
439
00:18:06.990 --> 00:18:10.530
Do I love not having to be
in the prosthetics trailer
440
00:18:10.530 --> 00:18:11.830
at 4:30 in the morning?
441
00:18:11.830 --> 00:18:12.663
Yes.
442
00:18:12.663 --> 00:18:14.974
That's a little better,
that's a little easier.
443
00:18:14.974 --> 00:18:15.840
Sure.
444
00:18:15.840 --> 00:18:17.780
Big shout out to Doug Jones.
445
00:18:17.780 --> 00:18:19.737
Still don't know he does it.
446
00:18:21.417 --> 00:18:23.940
But, and you know, he
took me under his wing
447
00:18:23.940 --> 00:18:27.500
too, in terms of just
prep and what to expect.
448
00:18:27.500 --> 00:18:29.950
And I mean, you're on a liquid only diet,
449
00:18:29.950 --> 00:18:30.783
while you're filming.
450
00:18:30.783 --> 00:18:32.850
You're filming 16, 17 hour days.
451
00:18:32.850 --> 00:18:35.840
It's just, it was Airiam was a full,
452
00:18:35.840 --> 00:18:39.583
you know, mind, body, spirit exercise,
453
00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:43.330
more than I'd ever
experienced as an actor.
454
00:18:43.330 --> 00:18:45.640
But yeah, I mean, when I came
back on the bridge as Nilsson,
455
00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:48.580
so I didn't know that was gonna happen.
456
00:18:48.580 --> 00:18:50.670
The writers, showrunners, nobody told me.
457
00:18:50.670 --> 00:18:51.540
I had no idea.
458
00:18:51.540 --> 00:18:52.480
At the beginning of Season 2,
459
00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:54.580
they were like, "Hey, we
have this new character.
460
00:18:54.580 --> 00:18:55.413
Would you like to be her?"
461
00:18:55.413 --> 00:18:56.310
I was like, "Yes."
462
00:18:57.657 --> 00:19:00.250
And then, you know, I didn't
really come into the season
463
00:19:00.250 --> 00:19:02.850
till Episode 10 of Season 2
464
00:19:02.850 --> 00:19:04.292
and it was me coming onto the bridge.
465
00:19:04.292 --> 00:19:06.700
And I was like, "What? Crazy!"
466
00:19:06.700 --> 00:19:07.610
But, yeah.
467
00:19:07.610 --> 00:19:11.720
When Nilsson walks into the
bridge for the first time,
468
00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:14.800
I felt this moment from her
469
00:19:14.800 --> 00:19:18.400
like I have enormous shoes to fill.
470
00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:20.700
I can not screw this up.
471
00:19:20.700 --> 00:19:24.710
This is like, this is
a huge moment for me.
472
00:19:24.710 --> 00:19:28.700
And one of the bridge
officers gives her a look,
473
00:19:28.700 --> 00:19:31.155
that's like, "Just take
your station, you're fine."
474
00:19:31.155 --> 00:19:32.947
[door whirring]
475
00:19:46.470 --> 00:19:48.580
Welcome to the bridge, Lieutenant Nilsson.
476
00:19:48.580 --> 00:19:49.530
Standing by, captain.
477
00:19:52.555 --> 00:19:54.510
Like, am I projecting?
478
00:19:54.510 --> 00:19:57.181
Or did I actually get out of
that, what you put into it?
479
00:19:57.181 --> 00:19:58.800
Totally, totally, totally.
480
00:19:58.800 --> 00:20:00.110
I went into it like that,
481
00:20:00.110 --> 00:20:03.810
because I think with Airiam--
and you know as the actor,
482
00:20:03.810 --> 00:20:06.670
I did feel like I had
really big shoes to fill,
483
00:20:06.670 --> 00:20:10.150
in the sense of Airiam
was a big character.
484
00:20:10.150 --> 00:20:11.940
She was everything to me,
485
00:20:11.940 --> 00:20:14.372
she was everything to Hannah Cheesman.
486
00:20:14.372 --> 00:20:17.470
She was-- you know, so
coming back on as me,
487
00:20:17.470 --> 00:20:19.830
but a different version
of me, I was nervous.
488
00:20:19.830 --> 00:20:21.120
I was super nervous.
489
00:20:21.120 --> 00:20:22.870
And plus, it had been 10 episodes
490
00:20:22.870 --> 00:20:24.433
that I wasn't on the bridge.
491
00:20:24.433 --> 00:20:25.266
Right.
492
00:20:25.266 --> 00:20:28.560
And as an actor, you know,
we built this amazing bond,
493
00:20:28.560 --> 00:20:29.730
all of us, Season 1.
494
00:20:29.730 --> 00:20:31.370
And of course it was their Season 2,
495
00:20:31.370 --> 00:20:34.020
but I wasn't really there with the crew.
496
00:20:34.020 --> 00:20:36.900
So it was also kind of
that getting back onto it.
497
00:20:36.900 --> 00:20:38.900
I was like, "Oh, here's the family again."
498
00:20:38.900 --> 00:20:41.890
And it's kind of scary,
and it's nerve wracking,
499
00:20:41.890 --> 00:20:43.432
and all of that.
500
00:20:43.432 --> 00:20:44.900
So yeah, it was definitely.
501
00:20:44.900 --> 00:20:47.630
I-- listen, for what it's worth, I got it.
502
00:20:47.630 --> 00:20:49.060
Thanks, good. [laughing]
503
00:20:49.060 --> 00:20:51.070
So at least one person in the audience
504
00:20:51.070 --> 00:20:52.580
appreciated the work.
505
00:20:52.580 --> 00:20:53.413
Yes.
506
00:20:53.413 --> 00:20:56.860
Okay, you all have your
stations on the bridge,
507
00:20:56.860 --> 00:20:58.500
but let's play a fun game
508
00:20:58.500 --> 00:21:01.220
that we all who spend
time on the bridge play.
509
00:21:01.220 --> 00:21:04.980
If I could go anywhere else on the bridge,
510
00:21:04.980 --> 00:21:07.900
if I could have a different station,
511
00:21:07.900 --> 00:21:09.040
not the captain's chair,
512
00:21:09.040 --> 00:21:11.550
but if I can have a different
station on the bridge,
513
00:21:11.550 --> 00:21:12.383
what would it be?
514
00:21:12.383 --> 00:21:14.110
For me, it would probably be security.
515
00:21:14.110 --> 00:21:16.800
Because I just think that looks
like a cool place to stand
516
00:21:16.800 --> 00:21:19.180
and like shooting the phasers is great.
517
00:21:19.180 --> 00:21:20.940
But let's start with you, Ronnie.
518
00:21:20.940 --> 00:21:23.000
If you could go anywhere
else on the bridge,
519
00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:24.330
where would you go?
520
00:21:24.330 --> 00:21:26.700
I would have to take Rhys's spot.
521
00:21:26.700 --> 00:21:29.237
I'd have to go to tactical
and shoot some guns.
522
00:21:29.237 --> 00:21:31.240
[laughing]
523
00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:33.850
I have to let some shots out, for sure.
524
00:21:33.850 --> 00:21:34.820
Nice, for sure.
525
00:21:34.820 --> 00:21:35.653
Patrick.
526
00:21:37.630 --> 00:21:39.520
It's a tough one.
527
00:21:39.520 --> 00:21:42.510
I'm a big die hard Star Trek fan
528
00:21:42.510 --> 00:21:45.110
and so I'm gonna say, you know,
529
00:21:45.110 --> 00:21:47.840
I've always had a soft spot
for The Doctor on Voyager,
530
00:21:47.840 --> 00:21:49.870
and also Phlox in Enterprise.
531
00:21:49.870 --> 00:21:51.470
So I'm gonna say it's not on the bridge,
532
00:21:51.470 --> 00:21:55.210
I'd love to be a Doctor, because
they have memorable scenes,
533
00:21:55.210 --> 00:21:58.319
quirky characters, and also
they just get to witness
534
00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:00.019
and experience a lot of cool stuff.
535
00:22:01.670 --> 00:22:02.740
All right, excellent.
536
00:22:02.740 --> 00:22:04.090
Oyin.
537
00:22:04.090 --> 00:22:05.730
I'll split myself in two
538
00:22:05.730 --> 00:22:09.392
and take Ronnie's station
and Detmer's station.
539
00:22:09.392 --> 00:22:10.225
Okay.
540
00:22:10.225 --> 00:22:13.500
Because Ronnie's station,
because I want to find a way
541
00:22:13.500 --> 00:22:17.650
to communicate with everything
out there in the world.
542
00:22:17.650 --> 00:22:21.723
And Detmer, I don't
know how to drive or...
543
00:22:22.780 --> 00:22:23.950
I ride a bike.
544
00:22:23.950 --> 00:22:26.700
I don't know how to push
a cart in a grocery store,
545
00:22:26.700 --> 00:22:29.604
but I think it would
be cool trying to fly.
546
00:22:29.604 --> 00:22:31.709
You don't get the job.
547
00:22:31.709 --> 00:22:33.708
[laughing]
548
00:22:33.708 --> 00:22:35.557
Nope, you don't get it.
549
00:22:35.557 --> 00:22:37.847
You're going to the brig.
550
00:22:37.847 --> 00:22:38.680
Welcome to Starfleet.
551
00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:41.020
What are your qualification
for piloting this Starship?
552
00:22:41.020 --> 00:22:43.459
Well, I can't push a trolly in stores,
553
00:22:43.459 --> 00:22:45.766
so I think I'm ready.
554
00:22:47.130 --> 00:22:48.500
Emily.
555
00:22:48.500 --> 00:22:49.363
That's amazing.
556
00:22:50.751 --> 00:22:53.940
I'm so torn, I really love driving.
557
00:22:53.940 --> 00:22:57.020
I really love driving,
so I wanna keep my spot.
558
00:22:57.020 --> 00:22:58.640
But if I had to, I would pick Ronnie's,
559
00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:01.840
because I also want to
like speak every language
560
00:23:01.840 --> 00:23:05.510
and like secretly talk to
aliens and ask them questions.
561
00:23:05.510 --> 00:23:08.710
I absolutely loved driving the Enterprise.
562
00:23:08.710 --> 00:23:11.170
It was the greatest thing.
563
00:23:11.170 --> 00:23:12.160
I was a teenager.
564
00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:13.900
I was and am a nerd
565
00:23:13.900 --> 00:23:17.860
and I could not just randomly
push imaginary buttons.
566
00:23:17.860 --> 00:23:19.300
Everything had to have a pattern.
567
00:23:19.300 --> 00:23:21.570
Everything meant something.
568
00:23:21.570 --> 00:23:23.940
There is a way to send the
Enterprise to warp speed
569
00:23:23.940 --> 00:23:25.630
and I'm the only one
who knows how to do it.
570
00:23:25.630 --> 00:23:27.610
Do you have patterns that you follow?
571
00:23:27.610 --> 00:23:29.360
Did you do that fun imagination stuff,
572
00:23:29.360 --> 00:23:31.440
or do you just kind of let the hands go?
573
00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:35.210
Yeah, I definitely have a lot
of like patterns that I do.
574
00:23:35.210 --> 00:23:37.113
If I have a ton of lines, I'm like.
575
00:23:38.912 --> 00:23:39.745
[laughing]
576
00:23:39.745 --> 00:23:41.730
Not doing anything real,
but for the most part,
577
00:23:41.730 --> 00:23:44.860
I have my systems, and
it's like very specific.
578
00:23:44.860 --> 00:23:47.010
And our screens move, and they like,
579
00:23:47.010 --> 00:23:48.120
they're on a loop.
580
00:23:48.120 --> 00:23:49.530
So I have the loops memorized
581
00:23:49.530 --> 00:23:51.960
where I'll like pretend to be
touching them as they move.
582
00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:54.810
So cool, aw man.
583
00:23:54.810 --> 00:23:58.740
The closest we got were like
polarized animated graphics,
584
00:23:58.740 --> 00:24:00.530
that would always be in the background.
585
00:24:00.530 --> 00:24:02.150
We never got the really cool,
586
00:24:02.150 --> 00:24:04.400
like flash animations that y'all get.
587
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:05.608
And we didn't get toggle switches
588
00:24:05.608 --> 00:24:07.315
or anything like that.
Sorry.
589
00:24:07.315 --> 00:24:09.330
It's just like, it was all imagination.
590
00:24:09.330 --> 00:24:10.700
Sara, where would you go,
591
00:24:10.700 --> 00:24:12.850
if you could go someplace
different on the bridge?
592
00:24:12.850 --> 00:24:14.950
Yeah, I'd actually go to Oyin's station.
593
00:24:15.864 --> 00:24:18.500
Because yeah, my OCD, my type A,
594
00:24:18.500 --> 00:24:19.420
I'd like to have all that.
595
00:24:19.420 --> 00:24:20.930
I'd like to know where my shields are at.
596
00:24:20.930 --> 00:24:23.370
I'd like to know who's on
the ship, who's off the ship.
597
00:24:23.370 --> 00:24:26.320
Like I would just love to
have all that information
598
00:24:26.320 --> 00:24:29.523
in front of me and like
accessible at all times.
599
00:24:31.010 --> 00:24:33.660
Everybody loves Jonathan Frakes.
600
00:24:33.660 --> 00:24:36.210
He told me all the way back in Season 1
601
00:24:36.210 --> 00:24:41.023
that your cast reminded him
of us, the Next Gen cast.
602
00:24:42.083 --> 00:24:44.640
And the Next Gen cast
is-- for awhile there,
603
00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:46.820
we were sort of legendary in
the entertainment industry
604
00:24:46.820 --> 00:24:48.780
for being a large ensemble cast
605
00:24:48.780 --> 00:24:50.010
that genuinely loved each other.
606
00:24:50.010 --> 00:24:50.930
We're still a family.
607
00:24:50.930 --> 00:24:53.360
It's 30-plus years later,
we're in a text chain
608
00:24:53.360 --> 00:24:55.430
almost every day talking about things.
609
00:24:55.430 --> 00:24:58.010
We are very, very close.
610
00:24:58.010 --> 00:25:00.570
The fact that you all were
like that in Season 1,
611
00:25:00.570 --> 00:25:03.270
and we know that Season
4 is going to happen now,
612
00:25:03.270 --> 00:25:05.100
and you're looking forward to that,
613
00:25:05.100 --> 00:25:06.760
would any of you like to talk about
614
00:25:06.760 --> 00:25:08.513
what it means to be in this family?
615
00:25:09.509 --> 00:25:11.850
And what it means to know
616
00:25:11.850 --> 00:25:14.470
that you're gonna get
to work together again.
617
00:25:14.470 --> 00:25:16.930
You know, this quarantine
has been hard on everybody
618
00:25:16.930 --> 00:25:18.120
while we're doing it like this,
619
00:25:18.120 --> 00:25:20.630
and we're not seeing our
friends and our families
620
00:25:20.630 --> 00:25:22.260
in person as much as we would like to.
621
00:25:22.260 --> 00:25:27.260
How excited are you to
get into the next season,
622
00:25:27.430 --> 00:25:30.420
which I cannot believe we
are already talking about?
623
00:25:30.420 --> 00:25:33.920
Oyin, would you like to take that?
624
00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:36.850
Yes, it's unfortunate that the pandemic
625
00:25:36.850 --> 00:25:41.650
has separated us for
much longer than we want.
626
00:25:41.650 --> 00:25:44.700
But going on set now,
doing tests, and whatnot,
627
00:25:44.700 --> 00:25:46.690
there's a new, there's this feeling,
628
00:25:46.690 --> 00:25:48.883
this familiar feeling,
that is coming back.
629
00:25:51.650 --> 00:25:53.960
In the past three years,
I have grown so much
630
00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:55.730
and I don't think I would have been able
631
00:25:55.730 --> 00:25:58.150
to do that without these, you know,
632
00:25:58.150 --> 00:26:01.653
wonderful people, bridge crew,
but also the show itself.
633
00:26:02.520 --> 00:26:05.530
And I am so excited because I
know I have grown as a person,
634
00:26:05.530 --> 00:26:06.370
but also as an actor.
635
00:26:06.370 --> 00:26:09.130
And I cannot wait to actually start again
636
00:26:09.130 --> 00:26:14.130
because I know there's
so much more to learn.
637
00:26:14.140 --> 00:26:17.670
But also to-- a different type of bond
638
00:26:17.670 --> 00:26:20.120
is I feel like is going to happen with us.
639
00:26:20.120 --> 00:26:22.780
Because now we've settled
into ourselves as actors,
640
00:26:22.780 --> 00:26:26.610
settled in our characters,
641
00:26:26.610 --> 00:26:29.460
but also now we can actually play
642
00:26:29.460 --> 00:26:32.530
and settle in the fact
that we are a family.
643
00:26:32.530 --> 00:26:34.020
I'm excited, yeah.
644
00:26:34.020 --> 00:26:34.853
Ronnie.
645
00:26:36.340 --> 00:26:38.780
Yeah. it's crazy.
646
00:26:38.780 --> 00:26:42.180
They say time flies
when you're having fun.
647
00:26:42.180 --> 00:26:44.750
And we work super long hours.
648
00:26:44.750 --> 00:26:47.320
Like we're, what, on
set for 12-plus hours?
649
00:26:47.320 --> 00:26:49.640
And it never feels like that.
650
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:52.950
You know? That's one thing I
really appreciate being around
651
00:26:52.950 --> 00:26:54.900
all of these people that I work with
652
00:26:54.900 --> 00:26:59.563
is that they're genuinely
lovely people, you know?
653
00:27:00.522 --> 00:27:02.613
I can talk to them sincerely.
654
00:27:04.060 --> 00:27:06.253
Exchange great conversations
655
00:27:07.173 --> 00:27:09.090
and yeah, it truly is a family.
656
00:27:09.090 --> 00:27:10.750
You can go back
657
00:27:10.750 --> 00:27:12.635
to this little Airiam thing right here.
658
00:27:12.635 --> 00:27:13.867
[chuckling]
659
00:27:13.867 --> 00:27:15.119
And it's, you know,
660
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.170
it's evident that we're
all interconnected.
661
00:27:17.170 --> 00:27:19.950
So, I'm just really
appreciative for the opportunity
662
00:27:19.950 --> 00:27:21.650
to have worked with everybody
663
00:27:21.650 --> 00:27:23.750
that I've crossed paths with on this show.
664
00:27:24.837 --> 00:27:29.468
Your affection for each other
is obvious, it's palpable.
665
00:27:29.468 --> 00:27:31.330
And it obviously informs
666
00:27:31.330 --> 00:27:33.650
the relationship that your characters have
667
00:27:33.650 --> 00:27:35.420
on the bridge of Discovery.
668
00:27:35.420 --> 00:27:36.977
I appreciate all of you,
669
00:27:36.977 --> 00:27:40.820
and I am deeply grateful for
the time you have given us.
670
00:27:40.820 --> 00:27:43.920
Thank you for coming to
"The Ready Room" today.
671
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:47.987
And congratulations on Season 4.
672
00:27:47.987 --> 00:27:49.024
Thank you so much.
673
00:27:49.024 --> 00:27:50.480
Thank you.
674
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:51.313
It's so fun.
This was wonderful.
675
00:27:51.313 --> 00:27:52.171
Thank you, yes.
676
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:09.660
Of course, a return to the Mirror Universe
677
00:28:09.660 --> 00:28:13.530
comes with a return to those
awesome Terran uniforms,
678
00:28:13.530 --> 00:28:16.870
including some new statement
pieces for the Emperor herself.
679
00:28:16.870 --> 00:28:20.440
Let's take a closer look at
some of the wicked regalia
680
00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:22.860
in this behind the scenes video package.
681
00:28:22.860 --> 00:28:23.712
Check it out.
682
00:28:39.706 --> 00:28:40.650
I was just gonna take you through
683
00:28:40.650 --> 00:28:42.660
a little bit of how we do the process
684
00:28:42.660 --> 00:28:43.630
of building the chestplates.
685
00:28:43.630 --> 00:28:45.290
Because we did actually redo them.
686
00:28:45.290 --> 00:28:46.730
There was room to improve on them.
687
00:28:46.730 --> 00:28:47.867
So we wanted to do that.
688
00:28:47.867 --> 00:28:50.430
And we started with our 3-D
print, which is what these are.
689
00:28:50.430 --> 00:28:51.950
So usually we do a front and a back.
690
00:28:51.950 --> 00:28:55.080
This is a front of Burnham's chestplate.
691
00:28:55.080 --> 00:28:57.610
And the next step is that we
take this and we make a mold
692
00:28:57.610 --> 00:29:00.520
and then we produce the
soft chestplate piece,
693
00:29:00.520 --> 00:29:02.350
and glue the front to the back.
694
00:29:02.350 --> 00:29:04.730
And then we make the overlay separately.
695
00:29:04.730 --> 00:29:07.550
And then that gets put on top of that.
696
00:29:07.550 --> 00:29:09.440
And then that's how we come up with this.
697
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:11.070
So, this is her chestplate here.
698
00:29:11.070 --> 00:29:12.410
And because we line it with leather,
699
00:29:12.410 --> 00:29:14.100
it becomes much harder than it is here.
700
00:29:14.100 --> 00:29:15.010
And that's what makes-- you know,
701
00:29:15.010 --> 00:29:16.799
because this is really soft,
702
00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:18.940
but we line them with
all the glue, the lining,
703
00:29:18.940 --> 00:29:21.020
and the product on top,
704
00:29:21.020 --> 00:29:23.993
it forms into this shape.
705
00:29:25.050 --> 00:29:27.620
Before, when we did the
chestplates, we laser cut them.
706
00:29:27.620 --> 00:29:29.640
So we did-- Georgiou's was the only one
707
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:31.450
that we did with the
printed version on top.
708
00:29:31.450 --> 00:29:33.860
So these ones we did all
with the printed version.
709
00:29:33.860 --> 00:29:35.230
And just, you know, made it--
710
00:29:35.230 --> 00:29:37.200
I think we just executed it a bit better.
711
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:39.550
And I'm really happy with
the way they turned out.
712
00:29:39.550 --> 00:29:43.040
And that's Burnham's with
all her props regalia on it
713
00:29:43.040 --> 00:29:44.780
and her belt.
714
00:29:44.780 --> 00:29:47.000
And then next we have Georgiou.
715
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.340
And this year we wanted
to make her a casual look,
716
00:29:50.340 --> 00:29:53.710
down from her big cape
that she wore last time.
717
00:29:53.710 --> 00:29:54.870
So we did this fur cape,
718
00:29:54.870 --> 00:29:57.390
which was sort of like
a tie-back to a piece
719
00:29:57.390 --> 00:29:59.933
that she wore in Episode 115.
720
00:30:01.130 --> 00:30:03.670
The way we made this is
these are all strips.
721
00:30:03.670 --> 00:30:05.090
I don't know if you can see in between,
722
00:30:05.090 --> 00:30:06.003
but we took-- we made strips of fur.
723
00:30:06.003 --> 00:30:09.060
Because we didn't want it to
be really heavy on Michelle.
724
00:30:09.060 --> 00:30:11.250
So we made strips of fur
725
00:30:11.250 --> 00:30:13.360
and then sewed each strip on individually.
726
00:30:13.360 --> 00:30:15.710
So that's what all those lines represent.
727
00:30:15.710 --> 00:30:18.820
It's like a row of fur on separately.
728
00:30:18.820 --> 00:30:21.570
And it's what allows it to
have a great movement to it.
729
00:30:22.490 --> 00:30:23.897
You know, when we saw before,
she only had two looks.
730
00:30:23.897 --> 00:30:26.620
It was one was with just the chestplate
731
00:30:26.620 --> 00:30:29.260
with her jumpsuit.
732
00:30:29.260 --> 00:30:31.210
And then she had the
long cape that she wore.
733
00:30:31.210 --> 00:30:33.360
Which we felt for some of these scenes,
734
00:30:33.360 --> 00:30:35.420
we wanted something that just
felt a little bit more casual.
735
00:30:35.420 --> 00:30:37.843
So as she steps into the Mirror Universe,
736
00:30:37.843 --> 00:30:40.200
this is the first thing
that we see her in.
737
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.980
Which is like, we call that
her day look. [chuckles]
738
00:30:42.980 --> 00:30:46.810
And we worked with
shoulders with her a lot
739
00:30:46.810 --> 00:30:49.080
and adding that up and
sort of building up there.
740
00:30:49.080 --> 00:30:52.200
And they do give her that
larger-than-life persona.
741
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:53.570
She loves wearing the high heels,
742
00:30:53.570 --> 00:30:55.650
which is also another thing that helps.
743
00:30:55.650 --> 00:30:58.640
And then this one is what
we used for her aerial,
744
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:00.980
the aerial Georgiou for
the aerial performance.
745
00:31:00.980 --> 00:31:02.810
They wanted her to look the same,
746
00:31:02.810 --> 00:31:04.460
similar, as much as we could.
747
00:31:04.460 --> 00:31:06.010
So we did this version.
748
00:31:06.010 --> 00:31:09.380
And in that scene, too,
Georgiou's wearing the big crown.
749
00:31:09.380 --> 00:31:12.130
So we did one for the
dancer, she had hers.
750
00:31:12.130 --> 00:31:14.103
So hers is softer, these all bent.
751
00:31:15.360 --> 00:31:18.310
She wore that and Michelle
was wearing that one.
752
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:21.580
Michelle is so petite.
753
00:31:21.580 --> 00:31:22.500
So you needed something
754
00:31:22.500 --> 00:31:24.600
that wasn't gonna be
overwhelmingly crown-y,
755
00:31:24.600 --> 00:31:26.021
you know what I mean?
756
00:31:26.021 --> 00:31:27.470
So, I was looking for a really cool way
757
00:31:27.470 --> 00:31:28.470
of doing the headdress.
758
00:31:28.470 --> 00:31:30.900
I really loved the way
that one turned out.
759
00:31:30.900 --> 00:31:33.110
It's been a lot of fun working with her
760
00:31:33.110 --> 00:31:34.600
over the few seasons.
761
00:31:34.600 --> 00:31:35.810
It's been awesome.
762
00:31:35.810 --> 00:31:37.550
She inspires us to keep going [chuckles]
763
00:31:37.550 --> 00:31:38.830
and try new and different things.
764
00:31:38.830 --> 00:31:41.850
'Cause she's always so
willing to do anything,
765
00:31:41.850 --> 00:31:43.900
to try anything, so it's kind of awesome.
766
00:31:44.930 --> 00:31:47.219
Our future is unwritten.
767
00:31:50.300 --> 00:31:52.267
Let's make it count, shall we?
768
00:32:18.610 --> 00:32:19.970
Look, I get it.
769
00:32:19.970 --> 00:32:21.780
Waiting a whole week for the next episode
770
00:32:21.780 --> 00:32:25.290
of Star Trek: Discovery can
be agonizer levels of torture.
771
00:32:25.290 --> 00:32:26.123
But don't worry.
772
00:32:26.123 --> 00:32:28.570
I've got a sneak peek to
tide you over until then.
773
00:32:28.570 --> 00:32:30.870
So please enjoy this exclusive clip
774
00:32:30.870 --> 00:32:33.260
from Season 3, Episode 10.
775
00:32:33.260 --> 00:32:36.140
"Terra Firma, Part Two." Called it!
776
00:32:36.140 --> 00:32:37.140
Let's watch.
777
00:32:45.860 --> 00:32:48.860
[machines clanging]
778
00:32:59.344 --> 00:33:02.677
[grunting and groaning]
779
00:33:04.244 --> 00:33:08.244
[breathing deeply] I should be dead.
780
00:33:11.458 --> 00:33:15.230
Kill me. Give me the honor I deserve.
781
00:33:15.230 --> 00:33:17.980
You deserve many things.
782
00:33:17.980 --> 00:33:19.600
Then kill me for your own sake.
783
00:33:19.600 --> 00:33:20.590
Because every moment you hesitate
784
00:33:20.590 --> 00:33:22.810
is a moment that every one can see
785
00:33:22.810 --> 00:33:25.160
how weak you've become.
786
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:29.203
You're about to find out
how weak I've become.
787
00:33:31.260 --> 00:33:33.610
Why do you think Lorca
788
00:33:33.610 --> 00:33:35.630
has been able to gather so
many forces against you?
789
00:33:35.630 --> 00:33:38.030
Why do you think he got to me?
790
00:33:38.030 --> 00:33:39.680
You're rescuing Kelpians?
791
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.487
Fretting over artists?
792
00:33:42.487 --> 00:33:46.770
Half of your insipid
death opera was a lie.
793
00:33:46.770 --> 00:33:49.410
Propaganda to make you look strong.
794
00:33:49.410 --> 00:33:50.260
I know the truth.
795
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.530
Thank you all so much
796
00:33:54.530 --> 00:33:56.410
for joining me here in "The Ready Room"
797
00:33:56.410 --> 00:34:00.310
to talk about the latest
episode of Star Trek: Discovery.
798
00:34:00.310 --> 00:34:03.630
I will be back next week
for even more deep dives
799
00:34:03.630 --> 00:34:07.040
into Part Two of this epic
Mirror Universe duology
800
00:34:07.040 --> 00:34:09.090
featuring an interview from
801
00:34:09.090 --> 00:34:12.100
legendary Michelle Yeoh, herself.
802
00:34:12.100 --> 00:34:15.030
I am very excited and I hope you are too.
803
00:34:15.030 --> 00:34:17.350
Until then, I'm Wil Wheaton.
804
00:34:17.350 --> 00:34:19.183
Live long and prosper.