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Hey, nerds. I'm Wil Wheaton,
and this is "The Ready Room,"
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your official behind-the-scenes
hub for all things
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Star Trek Universe.
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This week, we'll be digging
into the latest episode
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of Star Trek: Discovery, "The Sanctuary,"
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which found our heroes on
Book's home world of Kwejian.
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Now, if you wanna avoid spoilers
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like when Burnham and Book--
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Then you'll definitely wanna
watch that before you watch us.
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Now, today I have two very
special guests joining me.
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Blu del Barrio and Ian
Alexander are in the Ready Room
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to talk about the latest
on their characters,
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Adira and Gray.
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Then, later on, I have another
brand new exclusive clip
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from next week's episode
of Star Trek: Discovery.
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But before we get to that,
"The Sanctuary" introduced us
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to the nefarious Orion behind
the Emerald Chain, Osyraa.
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And wow, she does not mess around.
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For more on this alien baddie,
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let's see what Osyraa's
actor, Janet Kitter,
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has to say about her new character.
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Control room, you look
great today. Engage.
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[Book] It's the Veridian, Osyraa's ship.
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Osyraa's scanning us,
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but she isn't blocking
our scans in return.
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She wants us to see her
and all her firepower.
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[Osyraa] Wow! It's been a while
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since we've seen a Starfleet vessel.
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Are you lost?
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Osyraa is the leader of the Emerald Chain.
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She is a very determined,
highly intelligent,
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somewhat fierce leader
who doesn't always employ
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the most diplomatic methods
to get what she wants.
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My ancestors knew that power is virtue
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and that there is no
nobility in suffering.
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You do what it takes to get
what you need or you don't.
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She can be quite heavy-handed
and employs methods
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that would be very frowned
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I'm Osyraa's nephew.
This is her territory.
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[Burnham] Where do you get your help from?
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They owe Osyraa.
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They work for us forever.
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It's pretty simple.
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We start hearing about her in Episode 5,
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the Emerald Chain, and we
start hearing the name Osyraa
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and it comes up a little
bit more in Episode 6.
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Cuyahoga is reporting
Orion and Andorian vessels
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in the Sigma Draconis system.
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It's the Emerald Chain.
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[Michelle You're kind
of getting, hopefully,
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this growing sense of dread about
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who is this individual who's
running this salvage planet
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and about whom people are speaking with
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a little measure of fear.
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We finally meet her in Episode 8.
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Did you get blown to bits
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The more we learn about her,
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I think the more fully
realized she becomes.
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[Book] When the Burn hit,
damaged to subspace shifted
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our moons' orbit, causing tidal changes.
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Sea locusts came out of the
ocean and ate our harvest.
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Millions, starving. Then
the Chain came along.
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Let me guess,
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they had the solution
to all your problems.
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When Cleveland Booker has
to go back to his home,
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he's forced to go back to his home
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because Osyraa is threatening
the people of Kwejian
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by depriving them of a pesticide
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which allows them to regulate
and control the agriculture.
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You don't seem surprised, sir.
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The Chain's turned Prime
Directive violations
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into an art form.
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Right now, I'm tracking 50 star systems
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in the same predicament.
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Kwejian is a planet that I interact with.
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Some people would say that
I am not particularly fair
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to the people of Kwejian.
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Osyraa breaks people.
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Ryn the Andorian, he was
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He tried to rally the people against them,
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people were beginning to listen.
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So she hacked off his antennae.
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we were looking at, well,
who are the other individuals
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in this new future and how
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We see via Federation
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how the Federation has handled the Burn.
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respond in a different way.
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You have just sealed your own fate
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and the fate of the Federation.
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I promise you will feel the
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I think hatred is the wrong word.
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I think that she doesn't
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that they deserve to be
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people to advance themselves,
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and yet they don't enjoy
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the same reputation as the Federation.
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So I think possibly envy is a
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She'll be back, Osyraa.
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And it will be bad next time.
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My guests today are two
of the newest members
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of my Star Trek family, and I
am so, so excited to be able
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to finally talk with them.
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Please join me in
welcoming Blu del Barrio,
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who plays as Adira, and Ian
Alexander, who plays Gray.
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Welcome, both of you, to the Ready Room.
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Hi, thank you.
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Hi, Wil.
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So I have been so excited to meet
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and talk with the two of you
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because, though our lives
are unbelievably different,
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we are three of four people in the world
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who are teenagers on Star Trek,
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and we are part of a tiny,
tiny, tiny little secret club.
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I just wanna know,
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now that we're about
halfway through the season,
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what has the experience been like for you
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working on the show
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and being the new young face of Star Trek?
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I feel like a baby.
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I feel like a baby.
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I mean, everyone is ...
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As much as everyone is
older, everyone is also like
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really far along in their
career and has been--
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And even with Star Trek.
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I mean, this is their third season.
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So they're like really
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So I just ...
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I don't know how else to say.
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I just felt like a baby.
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That is so funny.
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Yeah. I have never joined a franchise
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as well-established as Star Trek.
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I mean, it's been around
since well before I was born.
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So yeah, it's a little
intimidating to be joining
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such an amazing, massive franchise
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that has such rich history,
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especially when it comes to
like diversity in television.
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I feel though, like, along with Blu,
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we've settled pretty well
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and we found a lot of, you know,
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friendship and fun times on set.
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So I'm just really
excited to keep seeing how
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our storylines progress
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and how much further
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I would love to talk a little
bit about the diversity
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that you mentioned because Star Trek
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seems to always be really
in the vanguard of diversity
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and representation in the world,
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and it is groundbreaking
and wonderful that
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Star Trek has introduced non-binary
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and transgender characters
into this universe.
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I would love so much
if you would talk about
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what it means personally
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getting to represent these communities,
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getting to represent your communities
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in a mainstream science fiction show.
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Well, there's this song
lyric that I really like.
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It's from an FKA Twigs song, and she says,
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"I've never seen a hero
like me in a sci-fi,"
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and I really resonate with that lyric
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because, up until this point,
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I really hadn't seen a hero like myself
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in a sci-fi franchise like Star Trek.
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So I'm just so glad that
I can be one of the first
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trans characters on Star Trek,
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and that there can be
trans youth who--finally,
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they have a character to cosplay
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that's made for them, you know?
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Yeah, of course.
So I'm so excited to see.
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I absolutely agree.
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I love that song as well.
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Yeah, I agree with everything you've said
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and I think we got really lucky as well.
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Our cast is already so, so
diverse in a beautiful way,
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and they've gone even
farther by just having
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two trans characters
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and two very different trans characters,
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which makes it even more beautiful.
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Like there's a lot of
similarities between Ian and I,
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but we are also so different
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and I think it's so beautiful to see
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two very different trans
characters in one piece,
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in one show, interacting with each other.
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So I think we're really, really
lucky to be able to do that.
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Blu, there's this moment in the episode
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that we just watched
where Adira tells Stamets,
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"Listen, I'm they, them."
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They're fast.
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Um, they. Not--not she.
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I've never felt like a she or her.
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So I would prefer they
or them from now on.
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[Wil] And I watched
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this is one of those
groundbreaking moments
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that's really gonna matter to people.
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It's going to be one of the things
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that people look at it and go,
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"This is when the change started."
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What do you think it means,
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and what did it mean for you personally
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to play out that scene?
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If this is too personal a question,
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tell me and I'll back off,
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but I felt as I watched that,
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like I felt like I think
Blu's had a moment like this.
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That was very surreal for me because
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I was still struggling
a lot with my own gender
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when I started this show,
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and trying to figure
things out about myself
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as I came on to join Star Trek.
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And so when we filmed that scene,
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that was around about the time that
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I was coming out to my parents
and a lot of my family.
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So yeah, it was--
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That must have been intense.
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Yeah, it was really, really weird.
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But also really ...
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It was a mix. It was
wonderful and it was weird
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because Adira is a character,
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but a lot of the things
that I was going through
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really matched exactly where they were.
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In the story.
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So it was pretty surreal.
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Anthony also knew what was going on.
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So every time we would ...
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Every time we would cut, he
would just look at me like,
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"Are you okay?"
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And then I had to stop
him 'cause it was a lot.
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But it was really
meaningful and really hard,
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and it means a lot to me as a scene
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just because of what was
going on in my own life.
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And I hope that, if anything,
that comes off to anyone else
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who's like trying to come
out to their families.
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I hope that whatever I
was feeling comes across
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'cause I was feeling a lot of
turmoil and a lot of stress
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and also a lot of relief.
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So yeah.
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For what it's worth,
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I got all of that in your performance.
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Thanks.
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[Wil] The two of you, your characters
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are pretty close to Stamets and Culver.
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And I was going to ask you,
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are you close to Anthony
and Wilson in real life?
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We call them dads.
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They are like our dads.
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They are.
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It's so great 'cause they are kind of--
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I love that.
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Yeah, them along with Sonequa,
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I feel like they were the first
people to sort of reach out
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and make sure that Blu and I really felt
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welcomed into the family.
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Yeah. Anthony and Wilson,
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we got very close with super fast,
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and it does feel like, in show and out,
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like a little queer family,
which is really nice to have.
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That's awesome.
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It is so wonderful to me to hear that
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you call them your dads
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because that's what I called
Frakes and Brent Spiner.
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They are my two dads.
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They were dads to me
when I was on the set.
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Isn't there like ...
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Like there is nothing better in the world
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than those moments on set
or in the makeup trailer
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where one of the adults is
like, "I think you're cool."
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Am I right? Like, isn't
that just the best thing?
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It's so validating because--
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yeah, it just means so
much coming from someone
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that is well-established on the show
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to have that validation, definitely.
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Yeah.
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In the episode we just
watched, Ian, Gray is MIA,
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and he is kind of like
off doing his own thing.
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We gotta be a little careful,
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so we don't give anything away.
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But do you have some insights into why
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he might be avoiding Adira at this time?
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Without going too far
into spoiler territory,
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I think that Gray is
really just coming to terms
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with his place in the world and who he is,
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and also just sort of trying to figure out
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how to make himself happy.
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And he really doesn't have those answers
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at the point in the show that we're at.
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And so he does take some time,
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some space to himself to
really figure things out
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and then comes back to Adira later
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once he has processed
everything that happens.
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'Cause there's a lot.
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I mean, it's very traumatic
and it's very hard
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for both of them, but especially Gray,
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undergoing such a massive change,
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which I will not mention what it is.
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And so yeah, he just needs time and space
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to figure things out.
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Both of you have ties to Trill,
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and I am wondering what
sort of research, if any,
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you did regarding the species.
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Did you watch any Trill specific episodes
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of Next Generation or Deep Space Nine?
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Did you do some homework on that
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or did you just sort of get
a piece of the writer's Bible
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and build your own headcanon?
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I got an immediate email
from Nick Adams at GLAAD,
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who is a massive Trekkie,
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and he just sent me a huge
list of like Trill episodes
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and he was like,
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"You have to watch these Deep Space Nine."
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So I watched Deep Space Nine
and all of Jadzia's storyline,
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who's mainly in there.
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But, yeah, I definitely
had to get recommendations
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from people who are Trekkies
and who like have a really good
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familiarity with the whole franchise
325
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and where exactly we could
find information about
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the Trill species.
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'Cause it's pretty scattered,
other than Deep Space Nine.
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You are playing these characters
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who have a connection to a being
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that is hundreds of years old,
331
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just a centuries-old character.
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Would you talk a little bit
about playing that aspect
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of each of your characters?
334
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And are you thinking about that?
335
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Do you think about,
336
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"Oh yes, I have a X-hundred-year-old
creature inside of me,
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and their ideas are coming
through," or do you ...
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or am I overthinking it?
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I think actually the symbiont
340
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provides this gender
metaphor for me, personally.
341
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Yeah.
342
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There is a lot of allusion
to being transgender,
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like with the Trill and with their joining
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with the symbionts because you
gain all of the knowledge of
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the past hosts of the symbiont.
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And so those people can be of any gender.
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So for me it was kind of
like this encompassing
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trans metaphor for like, oh,
I'm like taking on all of
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this prior knowledge from my ancestors
350
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and sort of absorbing all
of their gender identities
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and their wisdom.
352
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And yeah, I was definitely
keeping that in mind of like,
353
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you know, Gray becomes this very wise soul
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with hundreds of years of experience.
355
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Yeah. I think whether it was
meant to be canon or not,
356
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I think the Trill species
does definitely mirror
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a lot of the trans experience,
358
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and trans fans definitely
always caught on to that.
359
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So it's really nice to
be able to follow that,
360
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now with two trans characters.
361
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Yeah.
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But otherwise, I totally
agree with everything.
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I think it is really, really
nice to have the awareness
364
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that there are multiple
consciousnesses inside of you.
365
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And it also makes it a
little bit hard to play
366
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because you can't like
focus on all of them
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because then you can't focus on anything.
368
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Yeah.
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So it's nice to remember
that you are the host,
370
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so Adira or Gray, at their
own time, is the host.
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So they are the one that is in control,
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the one that has some semblance of control
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and they are allowed to
be like the front foot.
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The symbiont has brought
to each of your characters
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this gorgeous musical ability.
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And the two of you, each of you
handles a cello beautifully.
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I'm going to ask you if either one of you
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actually plays the cello.
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Now, you can lie to me and say
yes, and I will believe you.
380
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I suspect you're going to say,
381
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"No, we're just good actors,"
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which is what I would agree with.
383
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But I'm so curious to know
how you approached the scenes
384
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where you are playing that music
385
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that is so important to your symbiont.
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We had a wonderful teacher named Emma,
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who was just fabulous,
388
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and she really tried to help
us as much as she could.
389
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But every time, when I had
to sit down and play it,
390
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it just sounded like ear blood.
391
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[all laughs]
392
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Awful, awful noise, horrible noise.
393
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And there was a specific
moment where Sonequa
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had to come in and listen
to me playing and say,
395
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"That is so beautiful."
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[laughs]
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And I cracked every time
because it was just the most
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horrible noise that I was making.
399
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That's beautiful.
400
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She had to walk in just be like,
401
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"God, that was so beautiful."
402
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That's amazing.
403
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Yeah. I ...
404
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[chuckles]
405
00:18:42.890 --> 00:18:43.775
Yeah, you can go.
406
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Did they end up putting
the silenced strings
407
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on the cello so that it
wouldn't make any noise?
408
00:18:49.170 --> 00:18:53.270
Yeah. Yeah. So we had a tutor named Emma
409
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who sort of taught us
like the proper bow holds
410
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and sort of like the first
few notes of the song.
411
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And I actually really,
really enjoyed learning
412
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how to play cello and was like,
413
00:19:01.607 --> 00:19:04.820
"Hmm, do I wanna play
cello?" I don't know.
414
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I haven't taken lessons,
415
00:19:05.790 --> 00:19:08.510
but I would consider like
actually learning how to play
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the instrument in the future.
417
00:19:10.870 --> 00:19:15.870
Blu, when I was introduced
to your character
418
00:19:16.660 --> 00:19:18.910
early on in the series,
419
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I had an interview with Frakes.
420
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Like I said, Frakes is like my dad.
421
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So I texted him and I said,
422
00:19:25.147 --> 00:19:26.780
"I just wanted to talk to you a little bit
423
00:19:26.780 --> 00:19:29.050
about this episode and I
really wanna talk to you
424
00:19:29.050 --> 00:19:30.500
about Blu del Barrio."
425
00:19:30.500 --> 00:19:35.500
And he texted back with this
just incredibly effusive list
426
00:19:36.710 --> 00:19:38.830
of reasons he thinks you're amazing.
427
00:19:38.830 --> 00:19:42.450
And one of the things he
told me, which I did not know
428
00:19:42.450 --> 00:19:44.480
and I wouldn't know from watching,
429
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is that this is one of
your very first gigs.
430
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Like you are brand new on television
431
00:19:53.030 --> 00:19:56.940
and you're brand new on
something like Star Trek.
432
00:19:56.940 --> 00:20:00.920
Holy crap. Like, what is ...
433
00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:02.960
How do you even come into the room?
434
00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:04.450
How do you ...
435
00:20:04.450 --> 00:20:05.610
Like that has gotta be ...
436
00:20:05.610 --> 00:20:06.763
That's so much.
437
00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:10.990
It's so much.
438
00:20:10.990 --> 00:20:11.823
[laughs]
439
00:20:11.823 --> 00:20:14.550
It's a lot, for sure.
440
00:20:14.550 --> 00:20:19.550
I still don't feel like
it happened at all.
441
00:20:21.474 --> 00:20:24.790
Like it felt--I came from ...
442
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I started a little bit after
graduating drama school,
443
00:20:28.020 --> 00:20:31.150
and because Ian and I weren't announced
444
00:20:31.150 --> 00:20:33.680
for like a long time
after we finished filming,
445
00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:37.520
it sort of still felt like
school, because of that.
446
00:20:37.520 --> 00:20:39.200
So I got to film a whole season
447
00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:42.130
and get to know all these
people sort of in private
448
00:20:42.130 --> 00:20:46.300
which is, you know, sort of weird
449
00:20:46.300 --> 00:20:48.123
once-in-a-lifetime experience.
450
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It made it a lot easier to kind of relax,
451
00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:55.140
and it made it a lot easier
to also have Ian there
452
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with me because Ian knows
more about everything and--
453
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Yeah.
454
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He's definitely more
seasoned and has been working,
455
00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:09.880
and he was just like a
really big lifeboat for me
456
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when I was super anxious.
457
00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:16.960
And I struggle a lot as well
with depression and anxiety.
458
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So Ian was really, really
wonderful to have as a friend
459
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and as an ally.
460
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I have depression and anxiety as well.
461
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And I am used to it telling
me that I'm terrible
462
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when I'm on-set and I'm
used to it, you know,
463
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just telling me that I can't do anything,
464
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and they're all gonna laugh at me. Right?
465
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Like they're all ...
466
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Somebody's gonna figure it out.
467
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That's like, that has been
my fear my entire life.
468
00:21:40.470 --> 00:21:41.840
They're gonna figure it out,
469
00:21:41.840 --> 00:21:43.990
and I'm just never
gonna get to work again.
470
00:21:44.839 --> 00:21:48.350
I presume you have mentors on the set.
471
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Do you wanna talk about that at all?
472
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Yeah. One of the first episodes
where I had a lot to do,
473
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which I think was the fourth episode,
474
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I was pretty much,
every day, with Sonequa,
475
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like constantly, all the time,
476
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and I don't think that
there is a better role model
477
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for, like, as an actor being on set
478
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and being a part of a show.
479
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She is unreal.
480
00:22:18.800 --> 00:22:23.330
She takes the time and energy to be
481
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the kindest person in
the world to everybody
482
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that is on set at any given time.
483
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Everyone in the crew,
everyone in the cast,
484
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everyone in the extras.
485
00:22:32.620 --> 00:22:34.073
She gave like ...
486
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She gives 100% of herself the entire day,
487
00:22:38.020 --> 00:22:41.004
which seems crazy because
she's there all day every day.
488
00:22:41.004 --> 00:22:41.837
Yeah.
489
00:22:41.837 --> 00:22:46.310
And so, she immediately just
became a huge mentor for me,
490
00:22:46.310 --> 00:22:48.320
not only for this show, but
I know I'm gonna be thinking
491
00:22:48.320 --> 00:22:51.303
about her and the way
that she handles herself
492
00:22:51.303 --> 00:22:53.340
for the rest of my career
493
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because it's truly magical and wonderful
494
00:22:57.060 --> 00:23:00.600
and I wish that everyone in
the world could be like that
495
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'cause it's just amazing.
496
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[Wil] My last question for you both
497
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is about your interactions with the cast
498
00:23:08.630 --> 00:23:11.250
as it relates specifically
to Star Trek canon
499
00:23:11.250 --> 00:23:14.160
and the experience of being
on Star Trek in particular.
500
00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:17.810
So, this cast has been doing
Discovery for three seasons.
501
00:23:17.810 --> 00:23:19.370
They know the shakes,
502
00:23:19.370 --> 00:23:22.040
they know not to talk when
the doors are closing,
503
00:23:22.040 --> 00:23:24.443
they know how to hold
still for transports.
504
00:23:24.443 --> 00:23:27.090
Like they know all those things.
505
00:23:27.090 --> 00:23:28.010
Y'all are sort of new,
506
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these are all new experiences for you.
507
00:23:31.110 --> 00:23:33.860
Have you been able to take anything away
508
00:23:33.860 --> 00:23:35.670
from your fellow cast members and crew
509
00:23:35.670 --> 00:23:39.210
who have been on Star
Trek for three years now?
510
00:23:39.210 --> 00:23:40.043
Is there anything that you're like,
511
00:23:40.043 --> 00:23:42.180
"Oh! Man. Yes, I am so glad
512
00:23:42.180 --> 00:23:45.130
that I have that in my toolbox now?"
513
00:23:45.130 --> 00:23:47.670
I think the biggest thing was that
514
00:23:47.670 --> 00:23:51.650
it's allowed to be a playful space.
515
00:23:51.650 --> 00:23:53.470
Oh, yeah.
516
00:23:53.470 --> 00:23:57.270
'Cause it's really daunting
seeing everything first
517
00:23:57.270 --> 00:23:59.970
and like, oh, there is a ...
518
00:23:59.970 --> 00:24:01.040
The ship is real.
519
00:24:01.040 --> 00:24:03.040
Like there is an actual ...
520
00:24:03.040 --> 00:24:04.250
You know, you don't wanna break anything,
521
00:24:04.250 --> 00:24:05.630
you don't wanna touch anything,
522
00:24:05.630 --> 00:24:07.120
you wanna be quiet at all times.
523
00:24:07.120 --> 00:24:12.120
But immediately seeing how
playful the whole cast is,
524
00:24:12.340 --> 00:24:14.420
and a lot of the directors.
525
00:24:14.420 --> 00:24:15.790
I mean, Frakes is way up there
526
00:24:15.790 --> 00:24:20.790
in terms of just being a fool on set.
527
00:24:21.470 --> 00:24:23.620
We're allowed to be,
528
00:24:23.620 --> 00:24:26.490
that was really quickly learned from
529
00:24:26.490 --> 00:24:27.750
just watching everyone else,
530
00:24:27.750 --> 00:24:32.143
and that's the one that
is most resonant with me.
531
00:24:33.470 --> 00:24:35.290
'Cause it took away a lot of stress
532
00:24:35.290 --> 00:24:37.373
and it made asking questions easier.
533
00:24:38.470 --> 00:24:40.835
So that was the big one for me.
534
00:24:40.835 --> 00:24:42.830
Does Frakes ever sing on your set?
535
00:24:42.830 --> 00:24:46.294
Every like 45 seconds, give or take.
536
00:24:46.294 --> 00:24:47.498
[laughs]
537
00:24:47.498 --> 00:24:49.850
I'm so glad he's still doing that.
538
00:24:49.850 --> 00:24:52.290
He'll start singing and
then Anthony will join,
539
00:24:52.290 --> 00:24:55.510
and now it's suddenly
Broadway and it's fantastic.
540
00:24:55.510 --> 00:24:58.600
It's wonderful and I love it so much.
541
00:24:58.600 --> 00:25:00.060
I love that you get to have that.
542
00:25:00.060 --> 00:25:01.370
That was one of my favorite things about
543
00:25:01.370 --> 00:25:03.440
working with him when I was a kid,
544
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:05.650
was just that playfulness.
545
00:25:05.650 --> 00:25:07.810
And the professionalism
of getting it done,
546
00:25:07.810 --> 00:25:09.180
but the playfulness and the permission
547
00:25:09.180 --> 00:25:11.130
to have fun while we're working.
548
00:25:11.130 --> 00:25:13.250
Oh yeah, he does it so quickly
and you don't even notice.
549
00:25:13.250 --> 00:25:16.026
I think that's the great
part is he'll do it,
550
00:25:16.026 --> 00:25:18.100
he'll make everything happen speedily,
551
00:25:18.100 --> 00:25:19.770
but he doesn't feel like that.
552
00:25:19.770 --> 00:25:20.864
Yeah.
553
00:25:20.864 --> 00:25:22.140
It feels like you're
playing around and, you know,
554
00:25:22.140 --> 00:25:24.780
just doing fun things and then
you're done and, you know,
555
00:25:24.780 --> 00:25:26.980
it's early in the day
and somehow he did it.
556
00:25:28.390 --> 00:25:31.590
If your experience is similar to mine,
557
00:25:31.590 --> 00:25:35.480
you're going to have this family
for the rest of your life.
558
00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:37.660
I've heard you say you choose your family,
559
00:25:37.660 --> 00:25:39.750
and my biological family sucks.
560
00:25:39.750 --> 00:25:43.280
So I chose my family and my
family is my Star Trek cast.
561
00:25:43.280 --> 00:25:47.723
And it is so incredibly
meaningful to me to have that.
562
00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:52.100
I know that the two of
you are still kind of
563
00:25:52.100 --> 00:25:56.120
at the beginning of Star
Trek being part of your life.
564
00:25:56.120 --> 00:25:59.260
But for what it's worth,
from this middle-aged dude
565
00:25:59.260 --> 00:26:01.010
who has been part of Star Trek longer
566
00:26:01.010 --> 00:26:02.920
than your lives combined,
567
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:04.330
welcome to the family,
568
00:26:04.330 --> 00:26:08.600
and I am so honored to
share this time with you.
569
00:26:08.600 --> 00:26:12.753
And I'm so honored and
privileged to share Star Trek
570
00:26:12.753 --> 00:26:16.090
with two remarkable young
people who are great actors
571
00:26:16.090 --> 00:26:19.840
and incredible voices for what
Star Trek is really about.
572
00:26:19.840 --> 00:26:23.270
And I'm so grateful that
y'all made some time to sit
573
00:26:23.270 --> 00:26:24.870
and talk with me today.
574
00:26:24.870 --> 00:26:27.290
I'm so excited to watch
the rest of your character
575
00:26:27.290 --> 00:26:28.653
interactions this season.
576
00:26:30.430 --> 00:26:31.570
Thank you.
Thank you so much, Wil.
577
00:26:31.570 --> 00:26:32.820
Thank you.
578
00:26:32.820 --> 00:26:34.190
Thanks.
579
00:26:52.810 --> 00:26:54.870
I will burn 10 hecapates of forest
580
00:26:54.870 --> 00:26:57.200
every minute of delay.
581
00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:58.780
[Wil] Hecapates are a
unit of land measurement
582
00:26:58.780 --> 00:27:00.860
native to what alien race?
583
00:27:00.860 --> 00:27:04.100
Bajorans, Orions, Andorians, Cardassians?
584
00:27:04.100 --> 00:27:07.350
Don't boldly go anywhere.
Stay tuned for the answer.
585
00:27:07.350 --> 00:27:10.230
To borrow a phrase from
Saru's delightfully
586
00:27:10.230 --> 00:27:12.530
cringy go-to-warp lexicon,
587
00:27:12.530 --> 00:27:16.200
I think it's time to carry
on into next week's episode
588
00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:18.930
of Star Trek: Discovery
with this never-before-seen
589
00:27:18.930 --> 00:27:20.270
exclusive clip.
590
00:27:20.270 --> 00:27:22.483
Please watch and enjoy.
591
00:27:27.060 --> 00:27:28.370
[Kovich] If you'd come to me sooner,
592
00:27:28.370 --> 00:27:30.710
I could've saved you a lot of trouble.
593
00:27:30.710 --> 00:27:32.810
[Culver] I wasn't aware that
you had any medical training.
594
00:27:32.810 --> 00:27:35.363
Yes, I'm a man of widely
varying interests.
595
00:27:36.389 --> 00:27:38.470
And I understand she's been presenting
596
00:27:38.470 --> 00:27:40.160
with physiological symptoms.
597
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:43.780
But the cure won't be found
anywhere in this room,
598
00:27:43.780 --> 00:27:45.690
or in this galaxy for that matter.
599
00:27:45.690 --> 00:27:50.490
Computer, open classified
file beta 4895 omega.
600
00:27:50.490 --> 00:27:54.680
Lieutenant Commander Yor,
deceased. Time soldier.
601
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:55.610
Time soldier?
602
00:27:55.610 --> 00:27:58.740
Consider yourself lucky to
have skipped the Temporal Wars.
603
00:27:58.740 --> 00:28:01.150
Amongst the many horrible
things we discovered
604
00:28:01.150 --> 00:28:02.970
when weaponizing time,
605
00:28:02.970 --> 00:28:05.310
temporal travel can make you pretty sick.
606
00:28:05.310 --> 00:28:07.390
It turns out our molecules
are designed to function
607
00:28:07.390 --> 00:28:09.210
in the time at which they're created.
608
00:28:09.210 --> 00:28:11.760
But everyone on Discovery
traveled through time.
609
00:28:11.760 --> 00:28:13.270
Yes, but only one of you is also
610
00:28:13.270 --> 00:28:15.320
from a parallel universe.
611
00:28:15.320 --> 00:28:19.130
Yor, here, traveled forward from 2379
612
00:28:19.130 --> 00:28:21.820
and across from an alternate
universe created by
613
00:28:21.820 --> 00:28:24.790
the temporal incursion
of a Romulan mining ship.
614
00:28:24.790 --> 00:28:28.570
Before Georgiou, Yor was
the only individual known
615
00:28:28.570 --> 00:28:31.300
to have traveled across
both time and dimensions.
616
00:28:31.300 --> 00:28:33.050
So you knew this would happen to her?
617
00:28:33.050 --> 00:28:38.050
Suspected. Every molecule
fights to either go back in time
618
00:28:38.770 --> 00:28:40.053
or jump a cosmic divide.
619
00:28:41.140 --> 00:28:42.840
[Wil] Hecapates are a
unit of land measurement
620
00:28:42.840 --> 00:28:44.620
native to what alien race?
621
00:28:44.620 --> 00:28:48.830
Bajorans, Orions, Andorians, Cardassians?
622
00:28:48.830 --> 00:28:51.470
The answer is Bajorans.
623
00:28:51.470 --> 00:28:54.490
Hecapates were previously
referenced in Deep Space Nine
624
00:28:54.490 --> 00:28:56.100
when Benjamin Sisko purchased
625
00:28:56.100 --> 00:28:58.023
12 hecapates of land on Bajor.
626
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:02.370
Thank you all for
stopping by the Ready Room
627
00:29:02.370 --> 00:29:05.614
to talk about this week's
episode of Star Trek: Discovery.
628
00:29:05.614 --> 00:29:09.710
Next week, we have a
Ready Room first planned,
629
00:29:09.710 --> 00:29:11.820
and I cannot wait.
630
00:29:11.820 --> 00:29:13.900
Disco's bridge crew.
631
00:29:13.900 --> 00:29:17.350
The bridge crew is joining me
to talk about the new episode.
632
00:29:17.350 --> 00:29:20.010
I know that I cannot wait to find out
633
00:29:20.010 --> 00:29:21.202
what they have going on.
634
00:29:21.202 --> 00:29:23.840
Until then, I'm Wil Wheaton.
635
00:29:23.840 --> 00:29:25.606
Live long and prosper.