It doesn't quite taste like the real thing, does it?
I've never eaten a real apple.
Apples are a thing of beauty.
You want to talk about oppression,
you should start in your own mess hall.
It's made of our [beep], you know.
When Osyraa starts the negotiation process
with Admiral Vance, she is genuinely hoping
that they can collaborate to form a very unique
and special relationship that would benefit both sides.
Welcome to Federation headquarters.
Shall we?
Lead the way.
She's pretty transparent
at the beginning of the negotiations.
I want peace.
I want the Emerald Chain to unite with the Federation.
She offers him help, for help in exchange.
You have a spore drive that you cannot replicate.
I have the most well-funded scientific institutions
in the known galaxy.
There is a deal to be made here.
And I believe that she's probably a little bit tired
of holding this all up on her own shoulders
and genuinely needs the help of Admiral Vance
and the Federation.
For this armistice to be worth anything,
then the person representing the Chain
has to be proven credible.
The turning point comes, of course,
when Admiral Vance insists that she stand trial
for her crimes.
And the only way that that can happen
is if he or she functions completely independently of you,
and tries you for your crimes.
Excuse me?
And that is just not acceptable.
Osyraa isn't able to go before a court and be judged
for the things that she's done in the past,
because it's a loss of control.
We all had to make hard choices because of the Burn.
Spare me your judgment.
I think that she fears
that there would be no one else
that would actually be able to stand up
and continue the progress.
She's worked so hard to get her people where they are.
And so she's just not willing to sacrifice herself
for the greater good, which is a shame.
There has to be some sort of judicial responsibility.
In both societies.
Otherwise no one really trusts the truce.
You kind of need those checks and balances.
You're making a mistake.
That's not part of her vision.
Her vision is she is able to save the Emerald Chain,
add more dilithium to her stores, not be in constant fight,
but still be in control of her half of the equation.
The more we learn about her,
I think the more fully realized she becomes.
And what you find is she's in the same boat as Vance.
The galaxy is a much better place with you in it, Osyraa.
She wants to take care of her people.
She has a different way of going about things
and she doesn't have the same moral compass.
And from her perspective,
your moral compass doesn't have to be the right way.
When you look at that scene between Vance and Osyraa...
What Jonathan, myself, and Michelle talked a lot about
was having a chess match.
We loved the idea of a well-rounded villain
who had a strong point of view on this new future,
and a strong point of view of how to survive,
and was at odds with the Federation.
And we really wanted to give that to Osyraa this year.