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We did not just lose
Aron Eisenberg last year.

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We lost Rene Auberjonois as well.

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Rene was such an important
part of Deep Space Nine.

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Maybe we could end today...

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Ira, I would love to start,

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if maybe you all just had a few words

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to memorialize and remember
these two great men

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who we lost in the last year.

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You know, Rene,

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he was a force.

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He had strong opinions and
he backed those opinions up.

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He was very talented. He
could be prickly as hell.

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He could be sweet as hell.

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As an actor, he was a joy to watch,

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and he also gave me his
face at the end of Season 6.

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I was walking down to the
set, he was coming back,

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and he ripped off his mask,

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the last time for a couple
of months, soaking wet,

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and he goes, "Here! A souvenir!"

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And I said, "I'm keeping
this [beep] thing.

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I'm gonna keep it," and it's up there

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in my library to this day.

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So that's what I think
of when I think of Rene.

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Aron...

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Aron. I just wish I could've told him.

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I mean, I just thought he
knew, which was my mistake.

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I just thought the actors
knew how much we loved them,

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because we kept trying
to give 'em great things

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to do all the time.

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So that's how writers say
that they love actors,

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is they try to give them the
best material that they can.

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I just thought he was a funny
guy. He was a sweet guy.

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Later on, in the conventions,

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I got to spend time with
him, more time with him.

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You know, he was...

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I know it's a cliche, but in some ways

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Aron was too good for this
planet that we live on,

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you know, which is why I
think he was taken so young.

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He was just a good,
decent human being, and...

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We miss him. It's easy to miss him.

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Aron was everybody's best friend.

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I mean, whenever I went to a convention

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in some part of the world

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where it was usually Star Trek actors,

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or from other shows that
I don't really know...

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It's no offense to them.

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And I'd want to have
someone to have lunch with,

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I would find Aron and Aron would be there.

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And he was...

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He actively tried to offend you, you know?

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But as a joke.

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As a thing that, he found that
funny, and I found it funny.

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It's a particularly
British sense of humor,

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and he's like, you make fun...

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Setting someone up, as they
used to say in the U.K.

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And I don't think there'll
ever be enough said about Aron.

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He's a sweet, sweet human being.

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He was a sweet human being.

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And Rene I didn't know
very well on the show.

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I didn't do very many scenes with him.

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He was prickly.

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He could be prickly.

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But he would also laugh and
fill a room with his laughter.

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And I will yield the
rest of my time to Nana,

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'cause I knew that he
and Nana were very close.

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The loss of Rene is huge.

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He was a deep friend.

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And he was. He was difficult.

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He was all those things.

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But he was one of the
things I respect most

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that an actor can be:

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he was interested in the
work, constantly fascinated,

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and brought a child's mind
to every aspect of it.

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He cared so deeply,

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and he would get into his flow state

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and it was beautiful to work with him

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and to watch him work.

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Aron was this enormous, huge heart.

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He and I texted all the time.

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The last time we talked

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was two days before he died.

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When I was told that...

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My husband came in and said,

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"I'm so sorry to tell you, Aron died,"

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and I went into denial
like I've never gone.

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And it was about an hour

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before I would let the information in

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that he was gone.

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And, of course, I knew for two years

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that Rene was ill,

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and that was its own journey,

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but I got to take some
of that journey with him,

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of helping him die,
helping him talk about it.

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And it was a very precious thing to me.

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So I got, it's just huge.

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I miss them. I miss them both.

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Terry?

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Oh, gosh. Yeah.

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Both of those relationships
had initial struggles.

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With Rene, he ended up being
like a father figure to me

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and I really cherish the
journey I went on with him,

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because at first I used
to make him so angry.

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I would be like, "Oh, my god!" [laughs]

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And it's amazing how it evolved,

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and it's just a testament to
what a big person he was too,

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and it's just amazing.

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And Aron,

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at first he just drove me nuts

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how he just wouldn't stop,

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like a little, "Ah-la-la-la-la-la!"

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"Shush!"

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But [laughs] he would force
the conversation to be like,

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"Oh, Terry, I'm so sorry, I
didn't mean to upset you,"

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or, "I didn't mean to push you off,"

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or, "I didn't mean to say it like that."

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And then we developed
a really nice rapport

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and could banter with each other.

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It was just the more confident

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that he got that you liked him,

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the more relaxed he was about everything.

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And so, I don't know,
he's just an amazing soul.

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For Aron, to the spirit of Aron

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that is probably here somewhere around us:

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Aron, you must know by now

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that we all loved you.

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And because he was always
concerned about his acting:

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please know, Aron, we respected you.

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You were one of the finest
actors I ever worked with.

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For Rene:

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As Sid said, he was a consummate actor,

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and because my whole
world is about acting,

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that's all I ever really think about.

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I will say that

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I was always in awe of working with Rene.

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And if I have the last word,

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let me leave it with Shakespeare:

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They were men.

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Taken for all in all.

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I shall not look upon their likes again.