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Hey, nerds.
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I'm Wil Wheaton, and
this is The Ready Room,
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your official behind-the-scenes hub
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for all things Star Trek Universe.
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Today, I have the pleasure to be talking
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to the Soji formerly
known as Dahj, Isa Briones,
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who has all the details
on the latest episode
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of Star Trek: Picard.
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And as always, we will be getting deep
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into spoiler territory, so if
you haven't seen Episode 9,
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"Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1,"
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you're gonna want to watch that first.
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Because honestly, when was the last time
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a Latin-titled episode of
anything wasn't full of spoilers?
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And it's called "Part 1"!
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Like, it's telling you
right there in the title!
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But first, the crew just uncovered
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an entire society populated by synthetics,
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and I have a thousand followup questions.
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Luckily for us, we have
the show's creative team
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to answer a few of them
in this week's installment
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of "Producing Picard."
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Control room?
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Engage.
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I think we thought of
an all-synthetic society
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as a way of discussing
how different lifeforms
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can be marginalized and
how they can become reactive
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in the face it.
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So, the synth society on Coppelius
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originated from a single neuron
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that was smuggled out of Daystrom
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by Bruce Maddox the day
of the synthetic ban.
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And he then hooked up with Soong,
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and together they went to this world,
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which was pretty much off the beaten path,
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and began reconstructing by a process
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called fractal neuronic cloning.
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Doesn't exist, we made it up.
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From there, they created the first synths,
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and then the synths began
creating other synths.
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So, it is a world whose
population is purely synthetic,
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except for Soong, who is the
sole surviving organic there.
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We're not all machines here, you know?
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We created another Soong
for Brent Spiner to play.
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He's played several, and we
construed this particular Soong
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to be, essentially, Data's brother.
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Dr. Altan Inigo Soong, mad scientist.
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My father had me, but he created Data,
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a fact he never let me forget.
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It's always delightful to let Brent play
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different characters, and
Soongs in particular.
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And what's fun about
this particular Soong,
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like so many Soongs, is
that you don't really know
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which side he stands on.
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Well, I am incredibly lucky
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to be joined by a remarkably
talented young actor.
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I have to read the
names of your characters
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off of this card because
there are so many.
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'Cause you never know. [Laughs]
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Dahj.
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Mm.
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Soji.
Mm.
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Sutra.
Yes.
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Jana.
Mm!
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You are playing like an Orphan
Black cast of characters
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in this show.
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Ladies and gentlemen
and non-binary viewers,
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please say hello to Isa Briones.
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I am so thrilled that you are here.
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Thank you.
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I love you in this show.
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You are amazing in this show.
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Thank you so much.
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We have many, many questions.
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I wanted to ask you about Sutra.
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Mm-hmm.
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So, she looks just like Data.
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She appears to be an earlier version,
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an earlier synthetic.
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[Isa] Yeah.
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[Wil] And she is, one of the things
that impresses me so much,
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one of the things that makes
you so fun to watch as an actor,
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is you really become a different person
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when you are playing these
different characters.
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You're not an actor in a wig
or an actor under makeup;
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you are a totally different person.
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What went into bring Sutra to life?
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I think the fun thing about-
when I first started working
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on doing Dahj and Soji, it was like,
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"Oh, this is fun because
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so much like myself."
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'Cause she's a young woman going through
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all sorts of crazy new stuff,
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trying to figure out who she is,
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and that's exactly what I'm going through.
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But then to get to play
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and very different from those people
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is also exciting because you can take it
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in a completely different direction.
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You can have free rein. And the writers
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and all the creative
team were very generous
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with just letting me figure out
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who I wanted to make Sutra be.
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I mean, of course, they had their input,
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but they really let all
of us have free rein
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over our characters in
a really exciting way.
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Did you get to take a
lot of runs at her
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and try her different
ways to sort of like,
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did you find her in rehearsal,
or did you find her in prep?
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I feel like she just kind
of organically came about.
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Also, when you get into the
gold, and into the outfit,
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and into the hair, there's something
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that's so magical about costumes
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and really making that character
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that I feel like it
naturally just happened.
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I feel like when I'm doing work in makeup,
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or prosthetics, or something like that,
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I feel like I'm not gonna get caught.
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I feel like I'm in the
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Exactly.
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I can be something that I would feel like,
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"Oh, that's too far, if I did-"
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Yeah, it is wild how
just walking around set
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in those wedges, suddenly,
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you start to walk differently,
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and you start to just feel the character.
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Even people on set were like,
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"Oh my God, you've become
a whole other person.
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I'm scared of you."
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She is a little scary, which is something
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we have really only seen once before
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with Data's brother
Lore on Next Generation.
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What is going on in her head?
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She lets Narek go.
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What's going on with that?
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The thing is, you know, I
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at least every good, compelling baddie,
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there's a real reason.
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There's gotta be a compelling reason
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why they are the way they are,
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and for her, I mean, we talk about,
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we don't see, but we talk
about Jana, her sister,
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who was taken from her in a
very horrible, shocking way.
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on Coppelius, this world that we're on,
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you see that they are
this earlier version.
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They've really lived in
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so they're kind of sheltered, in a way.
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They've really only known each other.
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And also, everyone is made in pairs
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so you always have your companion.
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You always have your
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is her sister was taken,
and that affected her
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in such a way, at least this is the work
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that I've done in my head.
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Of course, we don't see it,
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but that loss is what makes her develop,
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I think, in a very different
way than everyone else
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because she's experienced a pain
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that no one else on that
planet has experienced.
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So, I think that informs her to-
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since they are not extremely experienced
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in the ways of the world,
all she knows is this pain,
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and that immediately colors
the way that she goes forward
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and the way that she view sentient life.
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All living things.
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It really, she can't trust anyone,
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and that is what drives her to make these
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not popular decisions.
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She comes across a little bit to me
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with the naiveté and the conviction
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of someone who is kind of
a newly minted cultist.
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Mm-hmm.
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That sense of like, "This
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"This is how it is, and
everybody else is wrong,
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and I can see all of that."
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Do you agree that she's
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With something that extreme
happening in her life,
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I feel like that's the only
thing she really knows.
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So, she's just reacting
in the only way she can.
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'Cause we've all been hurt,
we've all been in pain,
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and that pain sometimes
makes you do crazy things.
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Maybe you chop off your
hair, or something.
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You do something.
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where she's so sheltered
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and has been in this
almost cult-like world
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that every decision is extreme.
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So, she's like, "No, hate those people.
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Writing them off.
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Gotta destroy them, I guess."
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And I guess as an actor, can you talk
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about how bad people-
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I play villains all the time.
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We are never the villain.
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We're the hero of-
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Of our own story, yeah.
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Our story, right?
Of course.
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So, you get to do this really
cool thing in this episode
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where you get to play people,
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you get to play multiple characters
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who are in direct
opposition to each other.
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When you were doing your
prep, I break down my scripts,
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and the actions, and all of that stuff.
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Did you do this?
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The fact that you were
playing all the characters,
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did it change your preparation at all,
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or did you just like, "I'm
gonna prep this character,
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now I'm gonna prep this
character, they're all together"?
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I don't even...
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Because Sutra came so much later,
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like when I first found out
that I was gonna be twins,
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like before we even started filming,
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I was like, "Ooh, I'm so excited.
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I get to play opposite myself."
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And then I get the script, and I'm like,
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"She dies in the first episode.
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Dahj is dead, so I'm not
gonna get to play them as-
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alright, cool, whatever,"
and I just let that go.
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But then getting Sutra
that late in the game
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just for the last two
episodes, I was like,
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"Oh, this will be fun,"
'cause you kind of-
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especially since I've already
very firmly established
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who Soji is at this point,
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then it allowed me to immediately go
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in a completely different direction
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'cause I wasn't creating two
characters at the same time.
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It was just like adding a new foe,
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a new, interesting person into the mix.
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And I feel like that
just kinda came naturally
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because Soji was already
very much a part of me
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that I got to play
something very differently
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in a more natural way.
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You have a couple of really
cool straight-up Data moments.
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I mean, I think I speak
for Next Generation fandom
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when I say those were lovely moments,
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and they were wonderful to see.
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In 1990.
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Oh my gosh.
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Long before you were born, I think.
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Yes. [Laughs]
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Jonathan Frakes directed an
episode of Next Generation
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called "The Offspring."
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I am sure you've seen it.
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It's my favorite episode,
obviously.
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When I first saw you as Dahj,
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I turned to my wife and said,
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"My God, she looks just like Lal.
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That can't be an accident!
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That has to be a thing."
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[Isa] Yeah.
259
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So, for that episode, Frakes
directed that episode.
260
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Yes, I know.
261
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I've gushed to him about
that episode.
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Right after he finished casting,
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he and I were in the makeup trailer,
264
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and we were talking about it, and he said,
265
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"We all take for granted
how good Brent is.
266
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"We don't even realize until
you see people do a bad Data
267
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how hard it is to be Data."
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[Isa] Yeah.
269
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I didn't see you do a bad Data.
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I saw you do a great Data.
271
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So, I wanted to know if
you've studied Brent.
272
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Did you lean on Frakes
at all when he came in?
273
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Did you lean on Patrick for advice?
274
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Because those mannerisms are established.
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Those aren't really choices.
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Those are more interpretations.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I...
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When I first found out that
I was gonna be doing this,
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they made it very clear,
"You're not trying to be Data,"
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like, of course, because also,
282
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no one can be Brent, obviously.
283
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And also, they're both
supposed to be very evolved
284
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and advanced synthetics.
285
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So, I got to really just be.
286
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They were like, "She needs to
appear human, so just be you,"
287
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but then we get to sprinkle
in little Easter-egg,
288
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head-tilt moments and
things that every time
289
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I read the script, it
was like, "Head tilt."
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Alright, gotta do it.
291
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The head tilts.
292
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I feel really self-conscious
293
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that I'm gushing about this so much.
294
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I feel like it's super unprofessional,
295
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and the Internet is gonna eat
me alive for gushing so much
296
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because this is like The
Chris Farley Show for me,
297
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but I saw those moments,
and I care so much
298
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about Star Trek and about Next Generation.
299
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Yeah.
300
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I care so much about the
legacy of these characters
301
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that when I hear they're going,
302
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these things are gonna happen, I go,
303
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"Please, please, please don't mess it up!"
304
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Yeah.
305
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Those little moments, and the first time
306
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I noticed it was in, I want
to say that was like episode-
307
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Four?
308
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Yeah, so there's a moment
where she does that tilt,
309
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and I was like, "Ah!"
310
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Yeah.
311
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And I was like, "Oh, I wonder if someone
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who didn't watch that
every day for seven years-"
313
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Yeah. [Laughs]
314
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Would know.
315
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[Wil] Would know what that was!
316
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That episode was directed
by Jonathan Frakes,
317
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and it was the first time
that I really had to do
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that head tilt, and I was so nervous,
319
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and I didn't really, I
hadn't worked with Brent yet,
320
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and I didn't really talk to him a lot.
321
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So I didn't get much
of a chance to be like,
322
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"Am I doing this right?"
323
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[Wil] Yeah.
324
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But since Frakes was there, I was like,
325
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"Hey, you gotta help me.
326
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I want to make sure I don't botch this.
327
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People are gonna eat
me alive on the Internet
328
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if I do this wrong."
329
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[Wil] Yeah, yeah.
330
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And so, we tried it a few different ways,
331
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and then the last take I just hear Frakes
332
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all the way over in
his tent go, "Perfect!"
333
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I can hear him say it.
334
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I know-
335
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"Brilliant!" [Laughs]
336
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I can absolutely hear it.
337
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I love that, and I'm so envious
you got to work with him.
338
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[Isa] Oh my God.
339
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As an actor and as a director.
340
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A dream come true.
341
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[Wil] Yeah.
342
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Right?
343
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God.
344
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My research staff tells me
345
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that you have martial arts experience.
346
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Yes.
347
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You got to do some super
badass fighting sequences
348
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in the series back as Dahj,
and then again as Soji.
349
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Did you get to do some
of your own bodywork,
350
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or were you doubled a lot?
351
00:14:26.910 --> 00:14:30.590
Well, so right away, I
think the first thing,
352
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even before we started
rehearsing for the first episode,
353
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I immediately went into fight training.
354
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We have an incredible stunt team,
355
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and, yeah, as you mentioned,
I had done martial arts
356
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a lot when I was a kid,
but I stopped in my teens,
357
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and so I was kind of afraid
358
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that it was gonna feel
really out-of-my-body.
359
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But once I started getting back into it-
360
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Come back?
361
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"Oh my God, I remember now
how much I loved this."
362
00:14:56.825 --> 00:14:59.180
And since I'm from musical theater,
363
00:14:59.180 --> 00:15:01.740
in musical theater you're
supposed to be able to dance
364
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as well as sing, and I was always trying
365
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to go to dance classes
and get better at that,
366
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and it never really worked, and I realized,
367
00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:11.470
yeah, martial arts
comes a lot easier to me
368
00:15:11.470 --> 00:15:12.850
than dancing does,
369
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which is not great for
my career sometimes,
370
00:15:16.233 --> 00:15:19.603
but it really was so cool
getting to go back to that.
371
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They really taught me everything.
372
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Of course, Kiera O'Connor,
my incredible stunt double
373
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in the first episode, she
did all the flips and stuff,
374
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'cause I can't quite do that.
375
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Sure, sure.
376
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But they were so great at
teaching me everything,
377
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making sure that I was safe,
378
00:15:36.900 --> 00:15:39.680
and I really got to do a
lot of the fight sequence
379
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that you do see, so that was really cool.
380
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You have to do those movements.
381
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They have to be super controlled
382
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because it's a staged fight,
383
00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:50.100
but then there's the other
level of, you're a synthetic.
384
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[Isa] Yeah.
385
00:15:50.933 --> 00:15:52.438
So they have to be extra precise.
386
00:15:52.438 --> 00:15:53.510
Yeah.
387
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Did you feel extra pressure?
388
00:15:55.270 --> 00:15:57.526
I mean, any time you're doing
a fight scene, it's intense.
389
00:15:57.526 --> 00:15:58.359
Yeah.
390
00:15:58.359 --> 00:16:00.910
Was there an additional intensity at all?
391
00:16:00.910 --> 00:16:04.023
I just wonder because I see like,
you can't show expression.
392
00:16:04.910 --> 00:16:07.160
You have to make these
choices that are so different
393
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from what we actually do.
394
00:16:08.490 --> 00:16:09.323
Yeah.
395
00:16:09.323 --> 00:16:13.500
No, I feel like when you're in the moment
396
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and in something that intense,
397
00:16:16.330 --> 00:16:20.540
I'm a girl who loves drama
and who loves to tackle
398
00:16:20.540 --> 00:16:22.310
that kind of a role.
399
00:16:22.310 --> 00:16:25.760
So when you're in something
that is so naturally intense,
400
00:16:25.760 --> 00:16:27.050
like you're not faking it at all.
401
00:16:27.050 --> 00:16:29.900
Once you're fighting, it
feels like you're fighting.
402
00:16:30.750 --> 00:16:32.810
Actors always talk about how you know
403
00:16:32.810 --> 00:16:34.780
that you're playing a role,
but your body doesn't.
404
00:16:34.780 --> 00:16:38.930
And so, when you start fighting,
your body is in that mode.
405
00:16:38.930 --> 00:16:41.110
It is ready to kill, kind of.
406
00:16:41.110 --> 00:16:44.620
So, it just kind of comes
out, which is a cool feeling
407
00:16:44.620 --> 00:16:47.630
'cause it's not something
you always get to do.
408
00:16:47.630 --> 00:16:49.258
Hopefully, you're not
having fights like that
409
00:16:49.258 --> 00:16:50.091
in your daily life.
410
00:16:50.091 --> 00:16:50.924
Oh, yeah.
411
00:16:50.924 --> 00:16:52.612
Just see me outside, okay? [Laughs]
412
00:16:52.612 --> 00:16:53.750
Okay. [Laughs]
413
00:16:53.750 --> 00:16:54.583
No, but-
414
00:16:54.583 --> 00:16:55.475
I surrender.
415
00:16:55.475 --> 00:16:56.308
[Laughs] Yeah.
416
00:16:56.308 --> 00:16:57.141
I wouldn't.
417
00:16:57.141 --> 00:16:58.155
You've seen what I can do.
418
00:16:58.155 --> 00:16:59.300
[Laughs]
419
00:16:59.300 --> 00:17:02.840
No, but it really does
kind of just happen,
420
00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:04.180
the heat of the moment.
421
00:17:04.180 --> 00:17:06.780
Of course, you have to be
safe, since it's not real.
422
00:17:06.780 --> 00:17:08.330
You don't want to actually hurt anyone,
423
00:17:08.330 --> 00:17:10.480
but it is really cool to see
424
00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:12.430
how your body kind of just kicks in.
425
00:17:12.430 --> 00:17:14.200
How much Star Trek did you watch
426
00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:15.740
from the time you were cast
427
00:17:15.740 --> 00:17:18.090
until the time you started
working on the show?
428
00:17:19.057 --> 00:17:19.900
Did you dive into it?
429
00:17:19.900 --> 00:17:21.480
Did you feel like you didn't need it?
430
00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:23.683
No, I wanted to know.
431
00:17:25.270 --> 00:17:28.980
I knew that I wasn't, again,
I wasn't supposed to be Data,
432
00:17:28.980 --> 00:17:31.610
but I wanted to know the world of it
433
00:17:31.610 --> 00:17:33.790
just so I had some kind of background.
434
00:17:33.790 --> 00:17:37.801
But, as you know,
23 episodes, seven seasons
435
00:17:37.801 --> 00:17:40.850
is a lot to do in a couple
of weeks before filming.
436
00:17:40.850 --> 00:17:44.800
So, first, I just kind of was
reading all the descriptions,
437
00:17:44.800 --> 00:17:47.460
trying to see what pertained to me.
438
00:17:47.460 --> 00:17:49.166
Of course, I saw
"Offspring," and I was like,
439
00:17:49.166 --> 00:17:51.127
"Hmm, I wonder what
that..." and then read like,
440
00:17:51.127 --> 00:17:52.020
"Data has a daughter."
441
00:17:52.020 --> 00:17:53.020
No kidding!
442
00:17:53.020 --> 00:17:54.390
I was like, "Isn't that me?" [Laughs]
443
00:17:54.390 --> 00:17:57.877
Now, I would've expected
Star Trek Incorporated to go,
444
00:17:57.877 --> 00:18:00.203
"Isa, you really need to watch this."
445
00:18:00.203 --> 00:18:01.036
Yeah, no!
446
00:18:01.036 --> 00:18:01.869
[Wil] "It is very important."
447
00:18:01.869 --> 00:18:04.157
They sent that later, but
I came across that myself
448
00:18:04.157 --> 00:18:08.280
and I was like, "I think I
should watch this."
449
00:18:08.280 --> 00:18:11.130
And of course, I got
obsessed with that episode,
450
00:18:11.130 --> 00:18:14.920
but, yeah, I kind of bopped
around to various episodes,
451
00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:18.550
but then I got to, I think
it's end of Season 3
452
00:18:18.550 --> 00:18:21.400
where Picard gets
assimilated by the Borg.
453
00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:22.999
Yeah, "Best of Both Worlds, Part 1."
454
00:18:22.999 --> 00:18:26.340
And I was like, "Oh, this is cool."
455
00:18:26.340 --> 00:18:29.660
And I just kept on watching,
and I got so hooked.
456
00:18:29.660 --> 00:18:33.560
We tend to sort of, at
least in my slice of fandom,
457
00:18:33.560 --> 00:18:36.460
I was a Star Trek fan before
I worked on Next Generation.
458
00:18:36.460 --> 00:18:40.470
So, I am obsessive, and
nerdy, and obnoxious,
459
00:18:40.470 --> 00:18:41.303
and weird about it.
460
00:18:41.303 --> 00:18:43.500
Yeah.
461
00:18:43.500 --> 00:18:47.973
In my little slice of Star Trek fandom,
462
00:18:50.370 --> 00:18:52.410
that particular episode
463
00:18:52.410 --> 00:18:55.580
and the story that kind of grew out of it
464
00:18:55.580 --> 00:18:58.860
is really, really, really
important to us.
465
00:18:58.860 --> 00:19:00.473
Yes, very important.
466
00:19:01.460 --> 00:19:05.980
So much to do with our
show, specifically, too.
467
00:19:05.980 --> 00:19:09.520
Yeah, nothing really makes
me happier as an actor
468
00:19:09.520 --> 00:19:13.470
and as a fan than meeting
someone working on Star Trek
469
00:19:13.470 --> 00:19:15.700
who loves it and cares
about it as much as I do.
470
00:19:15.700 --> 00:19:16.533
Yeah!
471
00:19:16.533 --> 00:19:17.770
No, I really...
472
00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:24.000
It's funny how it slowly
became so much bigger to me.
473
00:19:26.110 --> 00:19:29.220
I didn't clock how important
it became in my life.
474
00:19:29.220 --> 00:19:32.570
Of course, I knew it was
this job I was doing,
475
00:19:32.570 --> 00:19:34.040
and of course that's important,
476
00:19:34.040 --> 00:19:37.400
but getting to really know the story
477
00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:40.550
and also getting to meet
fans, going to Comic-Cons,
478
00:19:40.550 --> 00:19:45.550
and really seeing how
much this whole franchise,
479
00:19:45.700 --> 00:19:50.090
but specifically this captain,
has meant to so many people
480
00:19:50.090 --> 00:19:53.770
and the impact that it
has had on their lives,
481
00:19:53.770 --> 00:19:57.650
it becomes a very emotional-
482
00:19:57.650 --> 00:19:58.640
Yeah.
483
00:19:58.640 --> 00:19:59.530
Part of the job.
484
00:19:59.530 --> 00:20:02.960
Like it becomes so much more
than just a show you're doing.
485
00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:04.540
Were you apprehensive at all?
486
00:20:04.540 --> 00:20:05.773
Were you like, "Oh no.
487
00:20:06.947 --> 00:20:09.547
Is this gonna be like a
Saturday Night Live sketch?"
488
00:20:11.165 --> 00:20:13.493
Or did you know the reality
of Star Trek fandom?
489
00:20:14.370 --> 00:20:18.840
I mean, when you get a job
and you're out of a job,
490
00:20:18.840 --> 00:20:20.530
you're like, "I'm gonna take that job."
491
00:20:20.530 --> 00:20:21.363
Yeah, of course!
492
00:20:21.363 --> 00:20:22.196
Absolutely.
493
00:20:22.196 --> 00:20:23.327
There was no apprehension there.
494
00:20:23.327 --> 00:20:24.160
Yeah, yeah.
495
00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:26.340
But I definitely, and I was aware
496
00:20:26.340 --> 00:20:31.340
of how big Star Trek is, and
how intense the fandom is,
497
00:20:31.570 --> 00:20:33.550
but it just becomes a whole,
498
00:20:33.550 --> 00:20:35.400
you suddenly see a whole other side of it.
499
00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:36.787
I think from the outside you're like,
500
00:20:36.787 --> 00:20:40.340
"Oh, that can be a crazy fandom,"
501
00:20:40.340 --> 00:20:43.390
but when you're in it, it's so appreciated
502
00:20:43.390 --> 00:20:47.057
because then you realize, "Oh, this thing
503
00:20:47.057 --> 00:20:48.707
that we've been working
on for six months,
504
00:20:48.707 --> 00:20:52.410
people want it, and people cannot wait,
505
00:20:52.410 --> 00:20:56.860
and people love us, and we
love them so much for it,"
506
00:20:56.860 --> 00:20:58.730
because how often as an actor
507
00:20:58.730 --> 00:21:01.220
do you already have that built-in,
508
00:21:01.220 --> 00:21:03.030
you already know people
are gonna receive it?
509
00:21:03.030 --> 00:21:04.180
People are gonna watch it?
510
00:21:04.180 --> 00:21:06.005
Like, that's the dream.
511
00:21:06.005 --> 00:21:07.970
At the end of this episode,
512
00:21:07.970 --> 00:21:12.970
Soji is placed in a
really difficult position.
513
00:21:13.190 --> 00:21:17.260
She has to choose between
her motley crew family,
514
00:21:17.260 --> 00:21:20.040
and she has to choose
between her synthetic family.
515
00:21:20.040 --> 00:21:23.745
And I guess, next week, we're
gonna find out what happens
516
00:21:23.745 --> 00:21:26.630
when she is forced to kind of make
517
00:21:26.630 --> 00:21:28.045
what feels like a Sophie's Choice.
518
00:21:28.045 --> 00:21:29.040
Yeah.
519
00:21:29.040 --> 00:21:31.340
Between these two families.
520
00:21:31.340 --> 00:21:32.990
Yeah.
521
00:21:32.990 --> 00:21:36.630
I think the fact that
she's found another sister
522
00:21:36.630 --> 00:21:40.860
is really, it's exciting
for her because she...
523
00:21:40.860 --> 00:21:43.290
I mean, she doesn't even
get to say goodbye to Dahj.
524
00:21:43.290 --> 00:21:46.240
She finds out about Dahj in the aftermath,
525
00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:47.990
and it's so quick and just something
526
00:21:47.990 --> 00:21:49.780
she has to be okay with,
527
00:21:49.780 --> 00:21:51.610
the fact that she's lost her sister.
528
00:21:51.610 --> 00:21:53.920
And now she's found someone else
529
00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:55.270
who has also lost their sister,
530
00:21:55.270 --> 00:21:59.970
and she has the opportunity
to make this new connection
531
00:21:59.970 --> 00:22:03.240
and find this new love
with this new family.
532
00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:07.020
But as we can see, Sutra's not exactly
533
00:22:07.020 --> 00:22:09.912
what you may want in a sister.
534
00:22:09.912 --> 00:22:10.745
Yeah.
535
00:22:10.745 --> 00:22:11.578
'Cause she's a little scary.
536
00:22:11.578 --> 00:22:12.411
Yeah.
537
00:22:12.411 --> 00:22:13.710
But there's just, there's
that natural thing.
538
00:22:13.710 --> 00:22:15.080
You can't choose your family,
539
00:22:15.080 --> 00:22:20.080
and she's trying to figure
out what is more important.
540
00:22:20.170 --> 00:22:22.960
Is this family more
important, or is the future
541
00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:25.993
of the rest of the
universe more important?
542
00:22:25.993 --> 00:22:29.310
It's really a big
decision to put on someone
543
00:22:29.310 --> 00:22:34.170
who five days ago thought she
was human, you know?
544
00:22:34.170 --> 00:22:36.752
It is, spoiler alert, I've seen it.
545
00:22:36.752 --> 00:22:38.270
[Laughs]
546
00:22:38.270 --> 00:22:43.270
It's extremely satisfying,
and it is important to me
547
00:22:43.530 --> 00:22:47.220
that you know that I believe
548
00:22:47.220 --> 00:22:50.383
that Star Trek is better
because you are in it,
549
00:22:51.220 --> 00:22:54.380
that you have played these
characters so beautifully
550
00:22:54.380 --> 00:22:59.290
and so perfectly, that I cannot imagine
551
00:22:59.290 --> 00:23:01.400
anyone else in these roles.
552
00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:03.040
I told you this backstage,
I'll tell you this
553
00:23:03.040 --> 00:23:05.500
in front of the world: I am thrilled
554
00:23:05.500 --> 00:23:07.553
to be in a Star Trek family with you.
555
00:23:07.553 --> 00:23:08.386
Thank you so much.
556
00:23:08.386 --> 00:23:09.300
Because I think you're awesome.
557
00:23:09.300 --> 00:23:11.310
Thank you so much for
spending time with us today.
558
00:23:11.310 --> 00:23:12.425
Thank you.
559
00:23:12.425 --> 00:23:14.070
Yay. [Laughs]
560
00:23:27.690 --> 00:23:29.070
Now, what kind of Ready Room would this be
561
00:23:29.070 --> 00:23:31.130
if I didn't have another
brand-new, behind-the-scenes
562
00:23:31.130 --> 00:23:32.610
video package for you to watch?
563
00:23:32.610 --> 00:23:34.900
Well, I am not gonna drop the ball
564
00:23:34.900 --> 00:23:37.610
after nine straight weeks.
565
00:23:37.610 --> 00:23:38.676
Let's roll the segment.
566
00:23:47.870 --> 00:23:49.470
In the prop department, early on,
567
00:23:49.470 --> 00:23:53.090
before we spend lots and lots
of money fabricating props,
568
00:23:53.090 --> 00:23:56.300
we make foamcore mockups of anything
569
00:23:56.300 --> 00:23:59.300
that we want to feel the
scale of it on a person,
570
00:23:59.300 --> 00:24:01.873
and also for stunts and
choreographing the fighting.
571
00:24:03.130 --> 00:24:06.610
And also, sometimes we'll
have them printed out
572
00:24:06.610 --> 00:24:09.550
in their various capacities
573
00:24:09.550 --> 00:24:14.550
to show the features and how
they change and transform.
574
00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:18.730
In order to get the scale right,
575
00:24:18.730 --> 00:24:20.960
we'll 3D-print these models out
576
00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:23.648
after we've done a foamcore mockup
577
00:24:23.648 --> 00:24:26.363
to get the ergonomics
correct for the hand.
578
00:24:30.840 --> 00:24:34.930
So, these I had fabricated
to be exact replicas
579
00:24:34.930 --> 00:24:37.800
of what they had on The Next Generation,
580
00:24:37.800 --> 00:24:39.450
but we updated the pieces
581
00:24:39.450 --> 00:24:42.530
to be these different acrylic pieces
582
00:24:42.530 --> 00:24:45.480
so that the whole thing has this glinting,
583
00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:47.080
iridescent feel to it.
584
00:24:47.080 --> 00:24:49.440
The mill that they were built in
585
00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:51.810
is building all the sets
for the show, as well,
586
00:24:51.810 --> 00:24:53.630
and there's just so much dust.
587
00:24:53.630 --> 00:24:56.340
And so, in order to glue these clear,
588
00:24:56.340 --> 00:24:59.270
acrylic pieces together, they
literally had to take them home
589
00:24:59.270 --> 00:25:01.480
over the weekend,
because every time
590
00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:03.790
they tried to put them
together, all the dust
591
00:25:03.790 --> 00:25:06.432
would swoop right in right
after they'd polish it.
592
00:25:18.850 --> 00:25:22.370
Before we start fabrication on anything,
593
00:25:22.370 --> 00:25:24.480
I'll do a show-and-tell with the creatives
594
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:28.140
and guide them through
every new custom fabrication
595
00:25:28.140 --> 00:25:29.020
for the show.
596
00:25:29.020 --> 00:25:31.070
We have synth tools here.
597
00:25:31.070 --> 00:25:33.760
These kind of represent the full gamut
598
00:25:33.760 --> 00:25:36.770
of the different engineering, medical,
599
00:25:36.770 --> 00:25:39.530
and artistic tools that they'll be using.
600
00:25:39.530 --> 00:25:43.210
Once those are approved,
3D models are built
601
00:25:43.210 --> 00:25:44.720
by the designers, and then those are sent
602
00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:48.480
to the fabricators where
new 3D models are built.
603
00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:51.730
In this case, these are
just static acrylic pieces
604
00:25:51.730 --> 00:25:54.490
that don't have any electronics hidden,
605
00:25:54.490 --> 00:25:58.023
so they can go straight from
the 3D model into fabrication.
606
00:26:09.372 --> 00:26:11.969
Welcome to Thad's room,
eldest son of Riker.
607
00:26:11.969 --> 00:26:15.880
He is deceased, and so we had
an opportunity in this show
608
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:18.690
to show Thad's character through the props
609
00:26:18.690 --> 00:26:20.070
and through the set dressing.
610
00:26:20.070 --> 00:26:21.860
So, if you look around the room in here,
611
00:26:21.860 --> 00:26:26.660
Thad was into cartography and
into making fantastic worlds.
612
00:26:26.660 --> 00:26:30.360
So, we were able to build and create
613
00:26:30.360 --> 00:26:33.680
all-custom fantasy maps for him
614
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:36.670
with different languages, cultures,
615
00:26:36.670 --> 00:26:38.746
mythical beasts, and denizens.
616
00:26:38.746 --> 00:26:42.290
Thad was also the one who
started building bows and arrows,
617
00:26:42.290 --> 00:26:44.940
and Kestra tagged along,
so we wanted to show
618
00:26:44.940 --> 00:26:46.600
that he was involved in archery.
619
00:26:46.600 --> 00:26:49.840
Ah, right here we have
baby Thad with Picard
620
00:26:51.134 --> 00:26:52.533
on-board the U.S.S. Titan.
621
00:26:53.580 --> 00:26:54.842
A long time ago.
622
00:27:24.930 --> 00:27:27.280
Thank you so much for
joining us here today
623
00:27:27.280 --> 00:27:28.170
in The Ready Room.
624
00:27:28.170 --> 00:27:31.420
I will be back next week to
talk about the season finale
625
00:27:31.420 --> 00:27:32.880
of Star Trek: Picard.
626
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.107
It is called, wait for it,
627
00:27:35.107 --> 00:27:37.537
"Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2."
628
00:27:38.430 --> 00:27:39.560
Please believe me when I say
629
00:27:39.560 --> 00:27:41.330
you are not gonna want to miss this,
630
00:27:41.330 --> 00:27:44.680
because I will be joined
by the Admiral himself,
631
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:49.680
Patrick Stewart, along with
Dr. Agnes Jurati, Alison Pill.
632
00:27:49.700 --> 00:27:51.980
Until then, I'm Wil Wheaton.
633
00:27:51.980 --> 00:27:53.150
Live long and prosper.