WEBVTT 00:21.100 --> 00:23.300 Hi, I'm Tim Gaskell from startrek.com. 00:23.300 --> 00:25.600 And we're coming to you from CBS Television City 00:25.600 --> 00:26.200 in Hollywood. 00:26.200 --> 00:27.900 We have a very very special guest with us. 00:27.900 --> 00:28.600 Today 00:28.600 --> 00:29.800 is Nichelle Nichols, 00:29.800 --> 00:30.400 Michelle. 00:30.400 --> 00:30.800 Come to 00:30.800 --> 00:31.300 CBS. 00:31.300 --> 00:33.200 It's a pleasure to be here with you Tim. 00:33.200 --> 00:35.600 You've been very busy of late. 00:35.600 --> 00:37.100 It's been a very busy week for you. 00:37.100 --> 00:39.500 You were at the William Shatner roast on Sunday 00:39.500 --> 00:41.700 night, which I hear was a very long Affair. 00:41.700 --> 00:42.500 It's been 00:42.500 --> 00:44.100 a very 00:44.100 --> 00:46.900 busy year for me. 00:46.900 --> 00:48.100 And 00:48.100 --> 00:51.600 so as of this moment, it's sort of culminated 00:51.600 --> 00:52.600 in this 00:52.600 --> 00:53.800 in the 00:53.800 --> 00:54.900 roast 00:54.900 --> 00:56.200 Bill Shatner. 00:56.200 --> 00:56.800 How did 00:56.800 --> 00:57.600 how did it feel 00:57.600 --> 00:59.900 overly long and it 00:59.900 --> 01:00.300 did 01:00.300 --> 01:02.900 get a rather 01:02.900 --> 01:05.000 caustic, 01:05.000 --> 01:07.100 but what is a rose that's what a roast 01:07.100 --> 01:08.300 is, you know, 01:08.300 --> 01:11.000 but as I said to 01:11.000 --> 01:13.700 one of the production people who were filming as 01:13.700 --> 01:15.300 I came in 01:15.300 --> 01:16.000 what they said. 01:16.000 --> 01:18.100 What was I going to say? You know what 01:18.100 --> 01:20.600 exactly I said? Well, I waited 40 01:20.600 --> 01:21.400 years 01:21.400 --> 01:24.000 to tell Bill to his face exactly 01:24.000 --> 01:26.900 what I think of it 01:26.900 --> 01:27.700 and 01:27.700 --> 01:28.400 that was fun. 01:28.400 --> 01:30.400 You know, that was my way of not telling 01:30.400 --> 01:32.000 like them anything 01:32.000 --> 01:34.600 and I think maybe I'd so the more that 01:34.600 --> 01:36.000 they needed to know 01:36.000 --> 01:37.900 but it's a roast it was a roast and 01:37.900 --> 01:41.000 it was 01:41.000 --> 01:41.900 Very 01:41.900 --> 01:43.400 roasty 01:43.400 --> 01:44.400 now three our affair. 01:44.400 --> 01:46.100 They got to cut it down to 90 minutes. 01:46.100 --> 01:47.000 Oh, yeah. 01:47.000 --> 01:48.300 Yeah, they'll never make it. 01:48.300 --> 01:48.700 No, 01:48.700 --> 01:49.200 you know, 01:49.200 --> 01:51.200 well, we look forward to the broadcast is 01:51.200 --> 01:53.100 as we're recording this it hasn't aired yet. 01:53.100 --> 01:55.400 I've only seen a trailer on Comedy Central 01:55.400 --> 01:56.700 but it looks very funny. 01:56.700 --> 01:58.900 But it there was a lot of funny of 01:58.900 --> 01:59.300 humor. 01:59.300 --> 02:02.200 There was just 02:02.200 --> 02:04.600 I would not want to be in his shoes 02:04.600 --> 02:05.600 for anything. 02:05.600 --> 02:07.700 I would our seat as it were 02:07.700 --> 02:09.300 I saw a Patton Oswalt 02:09.300 --> 02:11.400 pull out a paper bag and he 02:11.400 --> 02:13.000 Bill, can you actually way out of this for 02:13.000 --> 02:14.300 something like that? That was a very 02:14.300 --> 02:15.400 they really that's a 02:15.400 --> 02:16.600 long as it's of that standard. 02:16.600 --> 02:18.300 I can't wait to Seth 02:18.300 --> 02:19.000 the other thing. 02:19.000 --> 02:20.200 You've been 02:20.200 --> 02:22.900 just working our way backwards here a bit. 02:22.900 --> 02:23.600 You've 02:23.600 --> 02:26.200 been working on a webisode a very 02:26.200 --> 02:27.000 big one 02:27.000 --> 02:29.200 called Star Trek of Gods and Men Gods and 02:29.200 --> 02:29.700 Men 02:29.700 --> 02:32.000 and that filmed in Upstate New York. 02:32.000 --> 02:33.400 I believe quite 02:33.400 --> 02:34.700 tell us about the how did you get involved 02:34.700 --> 02:35.700 with that 02:35.700 --> 02:38.700 through Sky Conway 02:38.700 --> 02:40.700 who incidentally is producing. 02:40.700 --> 02:41.100 seeing 02:41.100 --> 02:42.200 the 02:42.200 --> 02:43.100 wonderful 02:43.100 --> 02:47.000 celebration on the 8th of September and 02:47.000 --> 02:48.800 Seattle 02:48.800 --> 02:51.700 celebrating the 40 Years of Star Trek and from 02:51.700 --> 02:52.400 the 02:52.400 --> 02:53.800 its Inception 02:53.800 --> 02:56.700 and 02:56.700 --> 02:58.700 And he called me 02:58.700 --> 02:59.900 to do this film. 02:59.900 --> 03:01.100 This web 03:01.100 --> 03:01.900 web 03:01.900 --> 03:04.600 webisode webisode for want of a better word 03:04.600 --> 03:06.000 of a Star Trek webisode. 03:06.000 --> 03:06.500 And I meant 03:06.500 --> 03:08.400 what I liked about it 03:08.400 --> 03:10.000 was that 03:10.000 --> 03:13.300 it accommodated 03:13.300 --> 03:14.500 Hora 03:14.500 --> 03:15.400 and 03:15.400 --> 03:17.300 her cohorts 03:17.300 --> 03:19.000 of those 40 years. 03:19.000 --> 03:21.300 So it's 40 years later 03:21.300 --> 03:24.800 than the original 03:24.800 --> 03:25.400 Mission. 03:25.400 --> 03:27.800 No, man, or woman has gone before 03:27.800 --> 03:30.300 it's very it was very very good to handle 03:30.300 --> 03:30.900 buddy 03:30.900 --> 03:32.000 in the great thing about it. 03:32.000 --> 03:35.200 Is it Incorporated people from almost every show just 03:35.200 --> 03:39.500 about we had Tim Russ directing and Voyager Wang. 03:39.500 --> 03:41.700 There are Quang there are 03:41.700 --> 03:44.800 wonderful people who throughout 03:44.800 --> 03:46.100 the 03:46.100 --> 03:47.100 years that we 03:47.100 --> 03:48.800 shot 03:48.800 --> 03:50.500 that we were actually filming 03:50.500 --> 03:53.300 who had guest roles and 03:53.300 --> 03:55.300 some smaller role some larger. 03:55.300 --> 03:56.100 Roles 03:56.100 --> 03:58.700 and I think he had did 03:58.700 --> 04:02.700 did an excellent job and got some really fine 04:02.700 --> 04:03.900 actors 04:03.900 --> 04:05.200 and some great performances. 04:05.200 --> 04:07.100 I've seen a rain a bit of footage and 04:07.100 --> 04:08.100 it looks 04:08.100 --> 04:09.100 very impressive. 04:09.100 --> 04:10.400 It has to be said, yeah, 04:10.400 --> 04:11.300 so well done on that. 04:11.300 --> 04:12.200 They look forward to it. 04:12.200 --> 04:14.700 It should be out in a few months 04:14.700 --> 04:15.600 by the end of the year. 04:15.600 --> 04:16.300 I think so. 04:16.300 --> 04:17.900 Yes 04:17.900 --> 04:20.800 in Walter canings book chekhov's Enterprise which he wrote 04:20.800 --> 04:22.000 about the making of 04:22.000 --> 04:23.100 the motion picture. 04:23.100 --> 04:24.900 He describes a lunch break where he sat down 04:24.900 --> 04:25.600 with you. 04:25.600 --> 04:28.200 You told him about your involvement with NASA 04:28.200 --> 04:29.100 and how 04:29.100 --> 04:30.600 you got 04:30.600 --> 04:32.300 you inspired people to 04:32.300 --> 04:34.300 be recruited into the program 04:34.300 --> 04:35.200 and the 04:35.200 --> 04:37.000 minorities entering the program 04:37.000 --> 04:38.800 skyrocketed pun intended. 04:38.800 --> 04:40.700 Well, the men 04:40.700 --> 04:42.600 and Walter expressed a bit of Envy saying I 04:42.600 --> 04:45.100 wish I could have that effect and have that 04:45.100 --> 04:45.400 thing. 04:45.400 --> 04:45.500 Now. 04:45.500 --> 04:47.500 How did you get involved with 04:47.500 --> 04:48.900 the program to begin with? 04:48.900 --> 04:49.700 Well, 04:49.700 --> 04:51.400 I was 04:51.400 --> 04:53.400 invited to join the 04:53.400 --> 04:55.300 Board of Governors. 04:55.300 --> 04:57.200 Of the 04:57.200 --> 05:00.000 National Space Institute as it became 05:00.000 --> 05:02.700 as it emerged with the L5 05:02.700 --> 05:07.400 society and became the 05:07.400 --> 05:11.100 National Space society, 05:11.100 --> 05:13.100 and they asked me to speak 05:13.100 --> 05:15.900 and I 05:15.900 --> 05:21.200 spoke on new opportunities for the humanization of space 05:21.200 --> 05:23.700 and I proceeded to take 05:23.700 --> 05:24.500 NASA 05:24.500 --> 05:26.400 our NASA. 05:26.400 --> 05:28.000 to task for 05:28.000 --> 05:29.600 not 05:29.600 --> 05:33.400 including up until that time 05:33.400 --> 05:35.800 men and women 05:35.800 --> 05:38.500 of color other than Caucasian, so we had an 05:38.500 --> 05:39.500 all male 05:39.500 --> 05:43.100 caucasian 05:43.100 --> 05:44.500 Space Program 05:44.500 --> 05:47.600 all male caucasian astronauts 05:47.600 --> 05:50.400 and they were 05:50.400 --> 05:53.500 and little too and so I spoke on that 05:53.500 --> 05:54.900 and and the 05:54.900 --> 05:55.300 great 05:55.300 --> 05:59.300 Great minds that were being left out the opportunities 05:59.300 --> 06:00.000 that 06:00.000 --> 06:02.700 America had to go forth 06:02.700 --> 06:03.500 in 06:03.500 --> 06:07.200 Great Strides with our space program or bypassing 06:07.200 --> 06:11.400 people whose talents 06:11.400 --> 06:12.200 would 06:12.200 --> 06:13.400 certainly 06:13.400 --> 06:15.000 boost 06:15.000 --> 06:16.400 perhaps they were 06:16.400 --> 06:17.900 our efforts 06:17.900 --> 06:19.700 and perhaps they were 06:19.700 --> 06:22.500 bypassing a the next Einstein 06:22.500 --> 06:22.900 and so forth. 06:22.900 --> 06:25.200 I was a 06:25.200 --> 06:28.900 A little brought in my 06:28.900 --> 06:30.300 plea to them 06:30.300 --> 06:32.200 and 06:32.200 --> 06:36.100 little did I know that the director of the 06:36.100 --> 06:37.700 NASA was there 06:37.700 --> 06:42.000 and quite a few of the 06:42.000 --> 06:43.300 administrators 06:43.300 --> 06:44.900 administrator of 06:44.900 --> 06:46.400 NASA was there 06:46.400 --> 06:47.100 and 06:47.100 --> 06:49.100 asked to meet with me 06:49.100 --> 06:51.900 because they had just begun 06:51.900 --> 06:54.300 their I think was the sixth. 06:54.300 --> 06:55.000 Astronaut 06:55.000 --> 06:57.100 recruitment drive 06:57.100 --> 07:00.700 and lo and behold no one of color are 07:00.700 --> 07:02.400 females were like 07:02.400 --> 07:02.700 there. 07:02.700 --> 07:04.300 It was 07:04.300 --> 07:06.000 had applied 07:06.000 --> 07:09.100 in the droves that they thought they would 07:09.100 --> 07:10.100 apply 07:10.100 --> 07:11.700 because now they were serious. 07:11.700 --> 07:13.000 Well who knew 07:13.000 --> 07:15.200 you know, there'd be this is now the sixth 07:15.200 --> 07:18.300 one and and you promised that you were 07:18.300 --> 07:21.800 serious before and so 07:21.800 --> 07:24.000 to make a long story short when they ask 07:24.000 --> 07:24.200 me. 07:24.200 --> 07:26.000 If I would come on board 07:26.000 --> 07:29.400 to assist them in recruiting the first women 07:29.400 --> 07:32.300 and minority astronauts. 07:32.300 --> 07:34.700 I laughed at them I said 07:34.700 --> 07:36.600 that's that's ridiculous. 07:36.600 --> 07:38.000 I'm an actress 07:38.000 --> 07:39.900 playing an astronaut 07:39.900 --> 07:43.400 and I think that NASA would be 07:43.400 --> 07:45.500 ridiculed as 07:45.500 --> 07:47.300 for a gimmick 07:47.300 --> 07:48.400 to 07:48.400 --> 07:50.500 then say well see there's no one 07:50.500 --> 07:51.100 there. 07:51.100 --> 07:52.600 And so they said 07:52.600 --> 07:54.600 and I said who's going to believe? 07:54.600 --> 07:56.700 You know that and they said 07:56.700 --> 07:57.600 well, 07:57.600 --> 08:00.300 all they'd need to do is listen to you 08:00.300 --> 08:01.600 5 minutes 08:01.600 --> 08:02.600 and they will 08:02.600 --> 08:05.400 know that NASA is serious and finally got it 08:05.400 --> 08:07.700 together to get the right person and I said, 08:07.700 --> 08:09.300 how is that and he said we were at 08:09.300 --> 08:10.200 your 08:10.200 --> 08:11.000 your 08:11.000 --> 08:12.300 speech yesterday 08:12.300 --> 08:13.700 at the 08:13.700 --> 08:15.400 when you became 08:15.400 --> 08:17.200 came on board as 08:17.200 --> 08:19.100 Board of Governors 08:19.100 --> 08:22.100 for the National Space Society. 08:22.100 --> 08:22.800 And I'm 08:22.800 --> 08:24.800 glad I wasn't lighter 08:24.800 --> 08:29.300 because it would have just seen a red blob 08:29.300 --> 08:30.600 and 08:30.600 --> 08:34.100 there's this comes in handy sometimes 08:34.100 --> 08:35.500 but 08:35.500 --> 08:39.100 now that I understood how serious they were. 08:39.100 --> 08:40.300 I thought 08:40.300 --> 08:42.700 well if I'm asking them to put up or 08:42.700 --> 08:45.500 shut up I have to do the same thing 08:45.500 --> 08:46.500 and I had a 08:46.500 --> 08:49.000 company called women in motion, 08:49.000 --> 08:51.000 and I said, I'll do it under one condition 08:51.000 --> 08:51.900 all under control. 08:51.900 --> 08:54.400 Direct to my company, 08:54.400 --> 08:56.300 I will use my entire staff and we will 08:56.300 --> 08:58.400 go forth and I'll be your pie 08:58.400 --> 09:02.100 who goes out and makes the the principal investigator 09:02.100 --> 09:02.700 on it 09:02.700 --> 09:04.600 and makes 09:04.600 --> 09:05.800 the 09:05.800 --> 09:07.200 case 09:07.200 --> 09:08.400 for NASA 09:08.400 --> 09:09.500 with 09:09.500 --> 09:12.100 the understanding that you 09:12.100 --> 09:14.100 I will bring you in 09:14.100 --> 09:16.400 the qualified people, 09:16.400 --> 09:17.600 but at the end 09:17.600 --> 09:18.600 of 09:18.600 --> 09:20.500 my Tour of Duty. 09:20.500 --> 09:21.600 You 09:21.600 --> 09:22.600 can 09:22.600 --> 09:24.200 still say 09:24.200 --> 09:26.900 there are no people qualified because I know where 09:26.900 --> 09:29.000 the qualified people are. 09:29.000 --> 09:31.900 Then I would like you to know that 09:31.900 --> 09:32.600 I will put 09:32.600 --> 09:36.000 take out of class action suit against NASA 09:36.000 --> 09:37.100 and I will use 09:37.100 --> 09:39.700 all of my 09:39.700 --> 09:41.200 Powers as an intact 09:41.200 --> 09:41.800 as a 09:41.800 --> 09:43.500 celebrity 09:43.500 --> 09:46.400 to take lose just as I'm going to use 09:46.400 --> 09:47.600 to 09:47.600 --> 09:50.000 fulfill my contract, 09:50.000 --> 09:50.300 too. 09:50.300 --> 09:51.600 Expose 09:51.600 --> 09:53.400 this and if you're all right with that, they 09:53.400 --> 09:54.400 said fine 09:54.400 --> 09:56.600 because we're dead serious great 09:56.600 --> 09:58.100 and they were 09:58.100 --> 09:59.900 and 09:59.900 --> 10:01.600 six months later. 10:01.600 --> 10:03.100 I brought in 10:03.100 --> 10:04.400 more than they 10:04.400 --> 10:06.200 ever imagined 10:06.200 --> 10:09.500 and more qualified people than they ever imagined so 10:09.500 --> 10:10.600 much so 10:10.600 --> 10:13.600 that they open the 10:13.600 --> 10:16.400 the astronaut 10:16.400 --> 10:17.900 number that they were 10:17.900 --> 10:19.500 intending to 10:19.500 --> 10:20.200 too. 10:20.200 --> 10:21.100 Bring in 10:21.100 --> 10:22.200 which I think 10:22.200 --> 10:23.400 was thought 10:23.400 --> 10:24.800 to accommodate 10:24.800 --> 10:27.300 not one woman but six women 10:27.300 --> 10:30.600 not one African-American men, but three 10:30.600 --> 10:34.200 and an Asian and American Indian who act Wanda's 10:34.200 --> 10:36.500 not coming in till the next 10:36.500 --> 10:37.300 one, 10:37.300 --> 10:38.500 but 10:38.500 --> 10:41.300 I was it was something that I was extremely 10:41.300 --> 10:44.100 proud of and proud of being 10:44.100 --> 10:46.300 involved in 10:46.300 --> 10:49.100 that. 10:49.100 --> 10:51.000 My beliefs 10:51.000 --> 10:54.200 in what I had to say 10:54.200 --> 10:57.200 with my action behind it helped to change the 10:57.200 --> 10:59.600 face of the astronaut Corps forever. 10:59.600 --> 11:00.000 It's great. 11:00.000 --> 11:02.200 They found somebody who took their role in this 11:02.200 --> 11:03.900 seriously and you did and that's an amazing. 11:03.900 --> 11:05.200 I went on TV. 11:05.200 --> 11:06.700 I took 11:06.700 --> 11:08.700 I took 11:08.700 --> 11:09.900 NASA 11:09.900 --> 11:14.100 and and the astronaut 11:14.100 --> 11:15.200 team 11:15.200 --> 11:16.100 to 11:16.100 --> 11:18.700 Good Morning America. 11:18.700 --> 11:27.100 I took them to to Houston to command control. 11:27.100 --> 11:32.400 I've traveled all over the country to universities for 11:32.400 --> 11:38.500 one thing that had strong science and engineering departments 11:38.500 --> 11:39.500 and wasn't so much. 11:39.500 --> 11:44.700 I wanted to advise them what the the bottom 11:44.700 --> 11:48.700 they could expect, but I was looking. 11:48.700 --> 11:50.800 For the top and so what I did to 11:50.800 --> 11:53.500 use that was to find the alumni to would 11:53.500 --> 11:54.600 help to 11:54.600 --> 11:55.800 identify 11:55.800 --> 11:58.400 the qualified people and where they were 11:58.400 --> 12:00.000 and I went to them 12:00.000 --> 12:00.700 and 12:00.700 --> 12:02.700 there was some resistance 12:02.700 --> 12:04.100 and then and he said 12:04.100 --> 12:06.300 NASA is using you and I said, yes, and 12:06.300 --> 12:07.900 I'm using NASA 12:07.900 --> 12:09.300 now do you want to go or you just 12:09.300 --> 12:12.300 want to make NASA a liar 12:12.300 --> 12:15.200 and many many came? They said you're really serious, 12:15.200 --> 12:16.500 aren't you and I said 12:16.500 --> 12:18.200 I'm very serious 12:18.200 --> 12:18.800 and if 12:18.800 --> 12:21.500 Don't take Phi if I don't find the best 12:21.500 --> 12:23.400 who will apply 12:23.400 --> 12:23.700 then. 12:23.700 --> 12:26.200 It's a self-fulfilling prophecy that they are. 12:26.200 --> 12:26.600 No. 12:26.600 --> 12:29.100 No, there are no black men or women and 12:29.100 --> 12:31.500 there are no women who are qualified you want 12:31.500 --> 12:32.500 to be in there 12:32.500 --> 12:35.700 and they not only came on board who wanted 12:35.700 --> 12:36.200 to 12:36.200 --> 12:37.900 but they went out and spread the word as 12:37.900 --> 12:38.800 well, 12:38.800 --> 12:39.300 you know, 12:39.300 --> 12:42.300 so it was I did a media blitz 12:42.300 --> 12:44.000 because I didn't have any more, 12:44.000 --> 12:44.900 you know, as 12:44.900 --> 12:46.700 I didn't have a year 12:46.700 --> 12:48.700 and and 12:48.700 --> 12:49.500 and 12:49.500 --> 12:50.900 all went very well 12:50.900 --> 12:53.300 and I'm very very proud of an amazing Legacy 12:53.300 --> 12:55.800 to have it's a great combination to you know, 12:55.800 --> 12:57.200 yes your years on the show. 12:57.200 --> 12:59.500 It's well, like I said, it changed the face 12:59.500 --> 13:00.800 of 13:00.800 --> 13:03.000 of the astronaut Corps the same 13:03.000 --> 13:04.100 as Jean rotten 13:04.100 --> 13:05.100 Roddenberry 13:05.100 --> 13:08.300 changed the face of television and he 13:08.300 --> 13:09.300 brought 13:09.300 --> 13:12.600 her onboard when he brought Sulu on board when 13:12.600 --> 13:13.300 he brought 13:13.300 --> 13:15.100 check off on board 13:15.100 --> 13:17.000 that 13:17.000 --> 13:19.800 That expressed 13:19.800 --> 13:23.100 Humanity as we are not just 13:23.100 --> 13:25.500 a bunch of white guys Express are 13:25.500 --> 13:26.500 accepted. 13:26.500 --> 13:27.300 But 13:27.300 --> 13:29.600 you know out there saving the world 13:29.600 --> 13:30.000 exactly. 13:30.000 --> 13:30.600 Yeah 13:30.600 --> 13:31.800 and and 13:31.800 --> 13:33.500 coming aboard as equals. 13:33.500 --> 13:34.300 You know 13:34.300 --> 13:35.200 who her a 13:35.200 --> 13:37.300 after all is on the Command Deck was fourth 13:37.300 --> 13:38.800 in command all that. 13:38.800 --> 13:39.800 They never really 13:39.800 --> 13:40.900 got that out. 13:40.900 --> 13:41.300 It took. 13:41.300 --> 13:41.600 Dr. 13:41.600 --> 13:44.600 Martin Luther King to tell me who I was 13:44.600 --> 13:46.400 because he had investigated 13:46.400 --> 13:46.700 it. 13:46.700 --> 13:48.900 Turns out that he was a big Trekker. 13:48.900 --> 13:49.600 Well, 13:49.600 --> 13:51.400 I want to follow that up with a question. 13:51.400 --> 13:54.000 I was reading somewhere that 13:54.000 --> 13:55.700 one of the reasons you wanted to leave as 13:55.700 --> 13:57.300 you are getting a lot of mail that was 13:57.300 --> 13:58.800 being withheld from you 13:58.800 --> 14:00.200 now was that male 14:00.200 --> 14:03.200 was negative in nature or was a 14:03.200 --> 14:03.800 fan mail. 14:03.800 --> 14:04.700 This was fan mail. 14:04.700 --> 14:05.800 Why would they 14:05.800 --> 14:07.800 fan mail was held back from everyone, but when 14:07.800 --> 14:10.000 I found out that I could go down 14:10.000 --> 14:11.500 and collect my fan mail. 14:11.500 --> 14:13.500 It was just a pile of fan mail that 14:13.500 --> 14:15.300 field a duffle bag 14:15.300 --> 14:16.600 to take out. 14:16.600 --> 14:19.200 But that really wasn't the reason that that I 14:19.200 --> 14:20.200 was leaving. 14:20.200 --> 14:24.000 I'm grew up in 14:24.000 --> 14:27.100 in musical theater and in theater 14:27.100 --> 14:31.300 but musical theater was my interest as a singer 14:31.300 --> 14:34.400 and Dancer choreographer actor. 14:34.400 --> 14:36.300 I just love the 14:36.300 --> 14:39.500 live theater and I couldn't wait to get back 14:39.500 --> 14:40.700 and by this time 14:40.700 --> 14:42.200 I was being off of it 14:42.200 --> 14:43.300 being made 14:43.300 --> 14:45.800 some very interesting offers and 14:45.800 --> 14:46.800 Broadway was 14:46.800 --> 14:47.500 My 14:47.500 --> 14:48.900 goal, you know, 14:48.900 --> 14:49.400 and 14:49.400 --> 14:50.700 and I thought 14:50.700 --> 14:53.300 doing this Little Star Trek show would be a 14:53.300 --> 14:55.000 nice 14:55.000 --> 14:57.600 addition to my resume 14:57.600 --> 14:58.300 little did. 14:58.300 --> 14:59.200 I know 14:59.200 --> 15:00.100 that 15:00.100 --> 15:02.400 it was going to be a major addition to 15:02.400 --> 15:03.900 my entire life 15:03.900 --> 15:06.000 change the world and sometimes my goodness. 15:06.000 --> 15:06.700 Yeah. 15:06.700 --> 15:07.400 Yeah. 15:07.400 --> 15:08.300 Yeah g 15:08.300 --> 15:09.700 you can say 15:09.700 --> 15:13.000 quite frankly Gene Roddenberry changed the 15:13.000 --> 15:15.500 not only the face of Television, but he changed 15:15.500 --> 15:16.200 the world.